Hey Phil, I just got hold of an adsrvca from wmd ssf. Definitely worth a look if your interested packing a lot of envelope functionality into a small case. Loving it so far.

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nice one, will give it a look.

I use two MN Functions and a MI Kinks, with a Blinds and Shades nearby as my “Maths.” Still wish I had room for a Maths too! But I enjoy the flexibility of what I have. The extra Sample and Hold is super useful, opens up a channel of my SSF URA for fm’d bit crushing on my mix bus!

would anyone be interested in an envelope generator based on meadowphysics for the grid (4 envelopes whose peak velocities change per step/clock division)? i can post more on the idea later if anyone cares

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why are you not happy with the o/a/x2?

Nice idea. I think I could replace EOC/EOR with square waves from Batumi and be happy. Not the same, but close!

I don’t see how you could fit all the functionality of Maths into less, it’s really densely packed, reducing the size would mean to sacrifice usability. Then of course if you’re just interested in a subset of the features, that’s another thing.

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+1. It sounds more like you mean an alternative for the functionality I extract from this module that is <20HP which is somewhat different. Like, the ergonomics alone become an issue.

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So - IIRC, Shades mixes downwards - ie, A into B, B into C, wheras Triatt mixes into C out. I used to use my Triatt as a mixer as well as an attenuverter. That difference is minor but worth noting. They’re both very, very similar circuits, though, but that’s the one obvious difference i remember at the time. Also you may prefer the ergonomics of one over the other.

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Hadn’t seen these, might have to pick up three for that same reason.

That’s what I mean, yeah. Being able to split the functions of it that I use around my case, right now, would be more useful than all of the extra functions of Maths.

(apols - you in that sentence was probably @cmcavoy; the cascade of responses was unclear)

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Heh, I don’t think it was me actually, the chain of responses has broken down. My official position is “Maths is great, but only if you use it for more than envelopes, which I do, so I love it, and I think the OP should spend some time with the SUM / OR and INVERT outs before dumping it.”

Please update the thread minutes accordingly. :woman_judge:

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mine is not super calibrated so is difficult to manage…and i don’t like the know placement and position, i always need to read, but the two leds are great

How much would one miss vs a Maths when combining a mini slew and for example a Triatt?
Obviously you’re missing 1 of the 2 shapeable outputs of the maths (channel 4 basically) and the sum/or outputs, but are you missing anything else?

The mini slew looks pretty nice, also has end-of-rise and end-of-cycle outputs like the maths but on a single EG instead of on two separate ones.
Main detractor for me are the imho quiet annoying blue LEDs :frowning:

[edit] The last sentence was merely about the blue color of the LEDs not about having the LEDs in general :slight_smile:
I find the blue too bright and it makes it hard to read the panel labels.

Interesting. I really love the visual feedback of the LEDs.

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I have two Frap Tools 321, an I’d strongly suggest you take a look at it. Check out Learning Modular’s video about it.

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Thanks! I had a quick look the other day and it seemed very interesting

Absolutely!
They’re how I keep track of what all the little electrons are doing in a patch. I find modules that don’t have leds where they could show useful information quite annoying.

Slightly more on topic. For those who want the very useful EOR or EOC don’t forget these are pretty straightforward to patch if you have a comparator in your system.

Ah, good tip, thanks :slight_smile: I’ve been looking for things to do with the comparator on my Tromsø…