Yes, the Reflex demos are a bit confusing. It’s getting better when you actually can play with one and get more familiar. It’s just packed with features while being a pretty small module.

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this is really tough because everybody looks for different things in a sampler
it’s a similar to the challenge of demonstrating sequencers

how can you show every possible use case?

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Agreed! Between the three here - if 2016 was the year of the mixer in euro format, 2017 looks to be the year of sampler.

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thinking out loud, what is the more minimal option if one wanted the ability to sample, slice, varispeed, resample, multitrack in realtime - but needed none of the DSP (eq, reverb, vca, envelopes, etc.) ?

i love my 303, but it’s not realtime. had an octatrack, couldn’t get in a groove with the interface and tiny screen. laptop + ableton works great, but laptop. es-8 + ipad seems like it could be great, but software hasn’t gotten there. zmors & audulus have tons in the way of synthesis & patching, but lack sample recording / manipulation. i wonder how mobmuplat would handle this sort of task…

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this looks amazing indeed, i can’t imagine the amount of work that went into the development. but the interface is definitely something that sets it apart from a more typical modular workflow.

i can see this being used either as a heart of a small setup where the complexity of the ui would be outweighted by how many other modules it would save (and the possibilities in a such small footprint - this and a recorder would be a perfect little lab for field recording experiments (put it in something like http://pulplogic.com/product/lunchbox-traveler-basic)

or something you’d reprogram fairly rarely, so you would have a bunch of predefined chains with well defined modulation set up and controller modules - having only one knob it seems to be designed to be used with external control in mind.

still, i like how much more straight forward http://www.rossum-electro.com/products/assimil8or is, 8 samples, a trigger and 3 assignable CVs for each.

but while both allow to be controlled externally, and you could use teletype or ansible or trilogy to control either it’s not as direct as a native support for grid/arc would be (i’m actually curious how people integrate other samplers like reflex liveloop with their monome modules - should create another topic for this) but having a paged interface where you control samples directly from a gird (slicing etc) would be a lot more powerful. perhaps somebody will consider creating a simple sampler module with i2c support.

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i’m just gonna say it… mlr module

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Based on the specs (A8 1Ghz, 512mb RAM), it’s probably got a BeagleBone Black sat behind the front panel. They do have a USB port on them…

Also.

If it’s not open source, personally I think I’d want to wait until the software is complete before considering it. I don’t mind bugs, but only if I can fix them myself!

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I like this idea a lot.

Pair it with a Nagra SD. Could be a cool little package; a self-contained field musique concrete system.

I haven’t had a chance to watch the demo closely, and there’s really no other feature information on the page yet, but it sounds like this thing can perform processing functions independently of having samples on board.

I wonder especially about it for reverb, given I’m on the cusp of buying an Erbe Verb.

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Potentially worth popping i2c as a suggestion into the audio damage thread, while the module is still in development. For reference:

https://muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=169548&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

Since I’m currently laying out a potential feature set, if people would like to chime in on particular features they expect / want in a live looper (that also has an SD card) then now’s the time.

exactly. I plan this to be at the core of my small 84hp modular system, together with some monome modules, midi/cv interface, an equation composer, and a bugbrand synth voice. planning to add a deluge sampler as well to tie it all together and be able to work and perform without a computer.

the completeness of the 301, even if seemingly complex, is critical to make this work without a big system or the need for lots of extra outboard gear or modules.

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mobmuplat is my driving force in learning how to code – it seems like an incredible opportunity to run pd on a dang iphone (instead of using separately purchased mini-computers), but not many folks seem to be embracing it as a platform. maybe it’s wonkier than i assume it is?

I’ve been chatting with sandy about the expander and I think the er301 has clicked with her and we we talking about a screen implantation so it may be coming - actually knowing sandy she’s probably already in beta :slight_smile:

It may be a dumb question, but anyone guess how much of the processing signal path in this is analogue and how much digital? I.e., are the VCAs analog or digital?

Given the complexity of the signal path and the features available for each chain/channel, and that it is, after all, a “sound computer,” I’m kind of assuming everything is digital save for the final output/gain stage.

Based on this block diagram it looks to be all digi

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Also: LOVE to see a Tufte book with these!
My worlds colliding yet again…

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what a handsome machine

really well designed

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I did a version of an Arp odyssey on MobMuPlat and it took a while to code the GUI but yes it gets pd on a tablet/phone and that’s wonderful. As an aside I spent 6 months getting supercollider3 to work on a tablet without jail breaking and I was almost hospitalized with nervous exhaustion and anxiety. I am stil plonking away at the Reflex, basically grabbing shortwave samples and granularing them and stretching them into drones/textures I still need to devise a live working methodology with it though. This discussion has me thinking about it seriously again. I tried the tyme sefari first and was incredibly disappointed

I would really like that. Sandy has been a gen about helping out and firmware/feature suggestions too

I don’t have a modular but seeing all these beautiful sampling modules makes me want to take the plunge soon. I really love mangling recordings and turning them into something different/playable. Having a physical hardware-based setup to do so would be really nice.
I’m scared for my bank account!

[quote=“shreeswifty, post:37, topic:5171”]
I did a version of an Arp odyssey on MobMuPlat and it took a while to code the GUI but yes it gets pd on a tablet/phone and that’s wonderful.
[/quote]I’m thinking this would make for a great thread containing work that folks have made in pd for mobile/organelle/etc

[quote=“shreeswifty, post:37, topic:5171”]
I spent 6 months getting supercollider3 to work on a tablet without jail breaking and I was almost hospitalized with nervous exhaustion and anxiety. I am stil plonking away at the Reflex, basically grabbing shortwave samples and granularing them and stretching them into drones/textures I still need to devise a live working methodology with it though. This discussion has me thinking about it seriously again.
[/quote]This could be a great discussion as well

I’m curious about both of these projects @shreeswifty !

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