I haven’t dug into i2c with the 301 yet but I would really like to. I’ve also got an Es-9 on order with the intention of utilizing the computer as an effects and sequencing option as well which I think will really compliment the 301.
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I’ve got a line on a 301 made in 2017. Has anything major changed between then and now? It’s rev 7.
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Rev 7 needs a slight/easy mod to work with i2c. It’s super easy, and there is a walk-through on the O|D forum.
the thread link.
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Thanks thanks thanks thanks!
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Man, I really, really DO want what a module that works that way. At first I thought it would be the Zoia EuroBuro, but then the more I look in to the 301, the more I desire it… It sounds like it does so much of what I want it to do.
Interesting! I’m curious if you decide to go with ER-301 over Euroburo. Both are highly desirable, but for me, the Euroburo is 100% going to work as described and be exactly what I need. I sold my Zoia in anticipation of it (perhaps prematurely, I wasn’t expecting covid-related delays, lol). I don’t have hands-on experience with the ER-301, but a big appeal of the Euroburo for me is immediacy and building tools in the moment. The UI experience is fantastic and very fast once you get used to it. I will say this, though: its granular features are nice to have but they won’t replace my Nebulae v2 anytime soon, whereas my friends with ER-301 really do feel like the granular aspects of it cover Neb’s functions and more quite handily.
It’s good to be spoiled for choice, in any case.
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Let’s talk more about crow/301. Sounds like, at the very least, crow can serve as the ultimate modulator by controlling various aspects of the 302 via i2c. Yeah? Like, sending precise sequence for jumping to specific slices within the variable sampler? Easy as pie with Crow?
I don’t fully understand how the 301 “sees” input over i2c and where one would assign that, but I assume the info is out there (I haven’t looked, but will today).
What I’m ultimately after (right now anyway) is a way to control the buffer playback speed in a sequenced, quantized manner- say, restricting the change to 1, .5, and .25.
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Easy to do. You basically write the command ii.er301.cv(PORT, VOLT) in your crow script or Druid where port is a number 1-99 and then you set up a SC.CV device with the same port value as the modulator to playback speed on variable speed sample player. You then would figure out what voltages map to 1/2 and quarter speed (that’s the only part that might be slightly tricky as you’d have to play around to figure out the values that map exactly to the speeds you want as that’s a continuous control.
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Starting to wrap my head around things slowly. Was pretty happy with where I got with the Manual Grains module. Having fun!
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Gosh dang. Can’t wait to find get my hands on one of these bad boys!
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I have been curious about the er301 but never looked into it, mostly to avoid gas. But I have been thinking about it more lately and remembered @scttcmpbll’s tape unit. I currently have a magneto in my case pretty much exclusively for the tape saturation and warble effects. How close could I get to the magneto sound out of the er301? Because if I’m understanding things right, I could basically have 4 mono or 2 stereo magneto like channels instead of just one stereo pair?
I have both and you won’t replicate magneto with tape trash or trash echo. I suppose you’ll get close if you’re only looking for tape like sounds, but the units from @scttcmpbll are more versatile in terms of imparting anything from subtle “tape” to completely blown out “tape”. Also, the units on the 301 use up a not insignificant amount of cpu. I think they are worth it though. Finally, magneto has significantly more features as a delay with four heads, shift mode, looping, etc.
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Thanks for the reply. I don’t find I use much of the Magento. But maybe I do. Ha. I certainly don’t modulate it much. Kinda set and forget.
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So do you use it for a looper? Some of Omri Cohen experiments feeding it with piano or radio to the looper function have been really cool. Modulating things can also bring some very interesting playability to the Magneto. Personally, I don’t think the ER-301 makes for a good Clouds or Magneto clone which is okay just a Disting is not a Piston Honda. Some of the utilities and custom units offer great ways of building voices or dealing with complex sample playback along with granular features too.
I think the 301 will get you closer to clouds than magneto for sure. If all you’re looking for is tape like sound then the magneto and the 301 may be overkill. You can impart tape like sound with many cheaper tools, including actual tape (the 301 is quite expensive, as is magneto). If encourage you to dive into magneto a bit more.
As an example of a use case for 301, in my current patch the 301 is doing the following: looper, shared granular buffer from looper (real time granular), trash echo on the granular buffer, filtering all around, sample playback and manipulation, bass from sine osc and envelope, mixing of other voices from the modular.
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Not really. I shouldn’t say I don’t modulate it, but i probably don’t use 80% of it’s functions. I would probably miss it, if the ER-301 wouldn’t give me at least most of the functionality. But I feel like it’s huge for the functions I do use. It’s always delay and tape saturation/warble/aging. Sometimes shift mode.
Never had a clouds,.so… Not sure if I need something to take me there either. I think a lot of what you are describing about your current patch is what intrigues me about the 301. The granular, and sample manipulation, etc. I am just thinking, if I can get close to what I use the magneto for out of it as well as all the other fun stuff, it might be a better use of space. But I do love the sound of the magneto.
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I wouldn’t buy the 301 based on its ability to replicate another module. Rather think meta about it and then implement a certain concept in the 301, following it’s strengths and low hanging fruits. I think you’ll be much happier with it this way…
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Well, I wasn’t thinking about it TO replicate the magneto, but if it covers some of that ground, it might make the decision easier. As I said, while looking more seriously at it, I was reminded of @scttcmpbll’s tape unit and it got me thinking is all. Appreciate all the insight.
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with some patience you can emulate tape ‘flavour’ of delays with filters, add some noise and several delays into a path with some changes. It’s worth to look at Sloop custom unit for ER301. Basically it’s a looper but can be turned into dub-tape echo.
Magneto (which I like and use) is also tape delay emulator (with extra features) and not very close 
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I think this really is my thought process on this, I’m already using an emulator to sort of lofi up some of my sounds. I do that in many other ways in my case too, so maybe, something that contributes more possibilities to my system makes more sense. I am still clinging to the idea of sticking with one case, so I’d need to free up a lot of room to put in the ER301… Magneto kind of room.
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