#41

Thanks; that’s helpful.

I like the look of this a lot. However, its all-in complexity seems to lend itself a bit more to a closed-system kind of a approach; less of an integrated player in a system of other modules.

Which leads me back to earlier comments about it being an excellent small rack ‘field’ device, as it were. This, paired with a very small selection of input and output devices could indeed be a magnificent small instrument.*

But not what I am primarily looking for right now…which seems to be more along the lines of the Rossum.

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*This idea of it being a very compact “field” device also brings to mind once again what is increasingly looking like the achilles heel of Eurorack, and that’s AC power. As a recent arrival to Eurorack, I’m astonished that no one has offered a comprehensive, dependable solution for battery/portable power yet; a series of compact cases with rechargeable power. It seems like a chasm of oversight to me.

Yes, we can rig up our own solutions, but this is a giant missed opportunity thus far.

Anyway…that’s off topic.

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#42

yeah! @shreeswifty, if you’re willing to share your mobmuplat files for the Arp, that’d be incredibly appreciated.

#43

pulplogic makes very portable cases that work nicely with small rechargeable battery packs that have a 12v out.

#44

yep, i posted a link to their lunchbox traveler case eariler, it lists some of the possible options including solar.

#45

Let it flow!

#46

Thanks guys.

I was aware of the PL cases, and of course, any DC input case can be battery powered. I’ve looked at some of those battery options before, as well as others more specific to location recording for film, etc.

They’re good, and close to what I have in mind…but not all the way there.

I want a case with integrated rechargeable battery. It should operate such that there are no cords or batteries or boxes or converters of any kind hanging out of the box, whether attached or not.

In the interim, I can/will velcro a pack to the exterior, but I’d like to see the system completely self-contained.

Anyway, to be saved for a thread/discussion one day later. Thanks though; those do look good.

#47

not if you imagine using the 4 outputs as independent chains, or “modules”, with each one inserted into different streams within a greater patch. seems like there are endless options for integration via feedback loops, resampling, etc.

#48

Yes, I didn’t mean to imply it’s not capable of deep integration externally, only that its completeness in terms of its internal chains lend it to excelling in a stand-alone scenario–i.e., in a PL case with minimal additional modules. Very intriguing in this regard!

#49

Uuhh, wait: did y’all know that 4MS ALSO has a sampler coming out now?

Just saw it teased on FB. “Dual Triggered Sampler” apparently.

Nice looking partner to the DLD it looks like.

#50

they’ve been prepping that for a while…hadnt shown much yet

i wanted to build my setup around it but it’s taken too long

#51

Do you know anything about it?

#52

not much more than you

no screen
front loaded sdhc storage

theres some brief description in videos with a prototype they had at namm 2 yrs ago

#53

Fuck me! They’ve been using the prototype version of that for years in their demo rigs at shows. Glad to finally see the light of day on that one. Knowing their DLD, this will surely be tasty too.

#54
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#55

aw yeah it messe not namm
merci

#56

Just noticed a detail about the ER-301. If I read it right, there is no sampling input at 24bits; max is 16.

I am assuming it will sample with a record in though–like the 4MS guy points out his unit does.

Not a deal-breaker for how I personally would imagine using it, but a little disappointing. Assimil8or is 24 in and out, and has dedicated L/R sample ins…as I would expect a real sampler to have.

#57

I’m super excited about this one and also preordered it immediately (grey/black version yea!)
Its always a gamble to preorder, but I liked the UI enough and the creator to roll the dice on it.
I think its going to be great!

On the flip side though and to be critical (I really waited a long time before posting this and am still not sure if I want to):
Something irked me a little in the demo video when he got to the recording part. The workflow for sampling doesn’t seem to serve a musical/creative workflow, but instead serves the file system, or system architecture. Set up a recorder, set the quality, make a buffer, maybe name it, don’t forget to save your buffer… name that too, etc. etc.

I don’t think its fair to do comparisons on completely different machines, (but here we go) …on the op1 you can set a record length in bars, and record directly to 4 different tracks, pretty much instantaneously, and you can see those 4 tracks with an easy visual indication of where you are, where the playhead is, what the record length is, which tracks have audio and which don’t – with no buffers/names/settings/saving none of that stuff – its there when you power on next time, no gotcha oops I lost it all because I forgot xyz.

I do think that in a full featured sampler, you need to have those extra things (names/saving/setup/buffers/quality etc.) but then the idea of a fast creative ‘in the moment’ workflow seems to get completely left behind. What I hope is that over time I will either get so used to sampling on it that it won’t be too big of a deal, or that a quick record option with some preset settings, even a different UI would evolve.

This might just be triggered by some bad past sampling experiences, so I will def go into the 301 with as open a mind as I can.

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#58

i share your sentiments.

i love that on both the op-1 and the sp-303 you’re never asked to name files or create buffers ahead of time. just record and play. but the trade off is pretty extreme limitations… finding a balance between depth and simplicity is difficult.

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#59

Is Assimil8or past the mockup stage yet? Any videos?

#60

Not that I’m aware of. I’m waiting.

There is some information on their site though, and just looking at the front panel provides at least some clues, i.e., the dedicated sampling inputs.

I actually wish the ER-301 page took more of the Rossum approach, with a concise list of core features…then the movie. So many blanks still in its functionality.

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