I guess now that it’s been out for a bit it may be worthwhile having a dedicated thread for this.
I’ve just picked up mine from the post office today and looking forward to digging in to it. Especially the API mode stuff.
One of my first courses of action will be to create an abstraction/wrapper to use it with other SP-Tools stuff.
I’ve seen at least one more on here (@mzero). Anyone else have one? How are you getting on with it?
Thanks a ton, it’s on my “might purchase” list, very eager to know how you get along with yours.
I’ve had one for a few months and love it. Creating maps is easy and seems to be getting easier with new updates to their studio app. Its super responsive too and nice to play with sticks which was the big question mark.
I created a setup to control a Misha pretty easily. This is just some noodling.
Turns out they haven’t put out the example Max patch from the video above yet.
From the API spec I’ve managed to piece together how to put it in API mode and draw pixels/shapes, and have managed to format the incoming finger stream, but a bit stuck on how to turn “7-bitized 3 floats ( X, Y, Z ) position” into floats from part of the incoming sysex data.
As far as I can tell this part of the data comes as 14 digits, with an example as follows:
17 60 110 102 65 81 30 0 16 65 100 115 57 63
There’s some example Python/C++ at the bottom of the API spec pdf, but I’m not handy enough at reading either language to make sense of how to turn that into Max-friendly code.
Anyone handy with this kind of transformation?
I will admit trying to parse exact algorithm of this C++ code at 11PM is a bit over my mental capacity (but I get why they went that way - MIDI uses the most significant bit to differentiate between data and status bytes) but maybe you could use the provided code as external in Max MSP? Quick googling shows me that both C++ and Python could be used as external object.
To be fair, that’s some silly Python code. Yes, it’s very neat that they’ve written the conversion in one line, but easily followable it is not. As a toolbox function I suppose it’s okay, but as example code next to useless.
Oof, got there in the end. Had a long Zoom chat with my (significantly better programming buddy) and managed to parse through it.
Spent quite a while looking at this sort of thing:
There’s more slicing and dicing going on, as well as further bit-based stuff upstream, but one of the main bits translates to this:
Since floats and ints are voodoo in terms of how they are processed/handled inside the computer.
Ok, after an afternoon/evening of coding I’ve gotten some very promising results.
I explain it in the video, but basically getting a corpus of samples (1715 in this example) and projecting that onto the Touch (using FluCoMa and SP Tools) then navigating that sample space using the Touch (via the API controls).
I need to organize the code and tighten things up, but the way I built it it’s more easily generalizable (using jit.matrices to handle the LED stuff so I can easily up/downsample depending on corpus size etc…).
I’ve been using the Flucoma Tools in Max with the Sensel Morph to trigger single shot samples. The problem is that it creates “clouds” of points along the 2D space and not a filled grid like I’ve seen in your video. By doing this I don’t have an equally distributed space and there are large areas that trigger only a couple of samples and other with a huge amount of them
May I ask you what kind of mesage or object did you use to make that ordered grid within Max?
Thanks a lot!
At the core it’s
fluid.grid~, which is ideal for this sort of thing.
You’ll be chuffed to see the next update of SP-Tools (done already, just working on the explanation video at the moment) which has this:
It’s what I’m using for the Erae Touch, but I coded it so it’s generic in terms of the input it takes. As long as you send an XY pair (between 0 and 1) it will find the nearest match in the sample space.
Also, I’ve smartened up the UI for the Erae Touch bit too (also in the next SP-Tools update):
OMG!!! That is amazing!
So implementing it with other controllers seems to be pretty easy with XY packs … Thanks a lot!!
How are y’all finding it for midi control while playing? I’ve been enjoying my Launchpad a lot, but considering one of these guys for the added expressiveness/flexibility in control layout. Really bums me out that the Launchpad does not have knobs for controlling select parameters or some such thing.
How do you vouche for the Erae hardware more broadly now that you’ve used it more? (say, in comparison to the Boppad which I know you’ve also used)
I’m very curious if I should add it on my list of “midi controllers I could bang on with sticks” because I really would welcome a great one with tweakable visual feedback.
Yup, still holding up great and working well. The boppad was super disappointing all around, so it sets a pretty low bar (for me),but I definitely recommend the Erae Touch. They just put out a firmware update too, so I’ll update that when I’m back.
Agreed, but it was sturdy, transportable and pretty so it had qualities despite not being a good instrument ! I was wondering if the Erae fullfilled the missed promises of the KMI device. I’ll definitely add it to the wishlist now thanks for the quick breakdown !