#1147

@electret thanks yeah I reached out to them but also wanted to have this out here in the open in case it helps other newbs. (Was surprisingly hard to find other reports of same issue.)

@desolationjones That was my intuition too, how could it be individual ports, right? Answer to “which module” — it’s reproducible with 4 modules I’ve tried (Maths, MMG, Intellijel Quad VCA, Intellijel Headphones 1U), and all 4 work in any other port besides these 3 bad ones. So weird.

#1148

It’s possible that the power supply is split into zones with separate supplies for each zone. So it could be a bad regulator on one of those zones. You should definitely talk with Intellijel at this point.

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#1149

Super beginner question here. Im wanting to add a rings to my skiff (Morphagene, Pams, Maths, Erbe Verb) and I am wondering what would be a good quantizer/sequencer that wouldn’t take up too much space? Or, would I just need a quantizer which I could send a sequence to via Pams, and then into the 1v/oct on rings? Im having a hard time wrapping my head around sequencer vs quantizer. Thanks!

#1150

Hey, I was in the same boat as you. Still a beginner but here is my take.

Quantizer is best used (IMO) with random CV or a LFO and then attenuate it for range.

For example, Change PAM’s WAVE from a GATE to RANDOM. Since its a sample and hold, it will play a steady CV per beat. You then feed it through a quantizer so it will actually play in tune/scale. Now you can change the LEVEL in PAM’s settings so it doesn’t jump to high and low.

You can also feed an LFO and attenuate it through a Quantizer for the same effect, but more arpeggiated.

The weird thing about modular sequencers is that many are not quantized by themselves. So you do in a sense have to feed it through a quantizer. which i find redundant. I like using a quantizer for weirder signals, rather than ‘tuning’ a sequencer.

My suggestion would be to get something like an “Ornament & Crime” module. It fit my bill, and its a really good way to start sequencing multiple modules in your kit.

Sorry if none of it made any sense. :disappointed_relieved:

#1151

No that makes sense, so the o_c wouldn’t be redundant w/Pam’s?

#1152

@TonyIdaho already explained things a bit, but I had typed this up so another explanation might help folks:

A quantizer takes an input voltage (say an LFO from Pam’s) and optionally a gate/trigger/clock (could also be from Pam’s) and forces the input voltage to match a chosen pitch scale. The optional clock signal typically directs the quantizer to do the pitch sampling/output at a specific time or rate, similar to a sample & hold but for pitches. Quantizers typically do not generate their own voltages.

A sequencer creates voltages and is controlled by all sorts of different means. Sometimes they include quantizers (a la Rene), sometimes not, and sometimes they are inherently “quantized” (such as a sequencer built into a keyboard like a Keystep). Sequencers can often be internally or externally clocked. Some are more suited to pitches than others. Sequencers are generating their own voltages.

#1153

not really. Since I use Pam as a master clock for everything. O_C still needs to be clocked by something. And its really handy to have for example, (1x speed) for 1st sequencer from O_C and then (/4 speed) for the 2nd sequencer from O_C.

#1154

Thanks @joshhh and @TonyIdaho. This clears it up and makes it look like an o_c might be a good solution especially in the long run since it can have multiple sequences (I have a skiff now, but I imagine I will be expanding in the future).

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#1155

I think it’s a great beginner sequencer. In the future I’ll probably just hop on the RENE style sequencer because I like sequences that ‘evolve’ over time without me. I think that’s the power in modular sequencers because everything is CV’able. Probably too much for me at the moment. O_C just helps me flow better since its quicker to set up. If you do ever move on, the good news is that O_C has so much other uses too!

#1156

I got my Tempi about a week ago. Still learning my way around all of the functions, but I’ve used it in a few patches as a combination of a clock divider and trigger sequencer. As a sequencer, it’s either driving the main kick drum and/or high hat patters, or driving other sequencers - for example, a Grayscale Algorhythm, MI Stages, and PP/Brains running at different shifting divisions. I’m creating variations in the divisions for all or just a few of the channels by either patching another clock, or self-patching a channel into the “Mod” input. The next thing I plan on trying is using a sequencer (probably PP/Brains) to create rhythmic variations/compositions using the State CV input. I’d recommend playing with it some more before you dump it for another clock divider, though I love the simplicity of the 2hp Div. Before buying the Tempi, I considered getting another for a mini-4MS QCD type setup…

#1157

That’s a wonderful suggestion for a module grouping that I think could start me off quite well and is relatively affordable - thanks so much!

#1158

anyone have a favorite saturating/overdrive-able VCA/mixer? I’m looking to replace my Manhattan Analog Mix with something that has more grit, since I can cleanly mix in other ways. I really like the sound of the Manhattan DTM demos (formerly CP3, basically a Moog mixer copy with nice saturation), but if there is an option that is simultaneously a normalled mixer with VCAs, that’d be ideal - a la Tangle Quartet/Veils/Quad VCA, but designed to saturate. I know that the latter two can overdrive a bit but they’re maybe a bit more transparent than I am looking for.

thanks!

#1159

Veils saturates/overdrives. I don’t know if it’s the sound you’re looking for, but it goes to 11 :slight_smile:

Abstract Data’s VCA sounds nice overdriven, at least from videos.

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#1160

As far as I know XAOC Tallinn overdrives too. I like the parallel processing of linear and exponential CV inputs …

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#1161

I wish these were also mixers! I guess maybe they’re not since they’re both discrete circuits and thus adding a summing op-amp would not keep with the style they’re after. I could always just put a Links or something next to one and basically get what I want.

I had read that Blinds overdrives, but haven’t heard any samples. Maybe worth a shot though, it seems like a solid design overall and I like the cascading normalled mixing design.

#1162

Check out Joranalogue Mix 3. Three channel mixer with VCAs that overdrive.

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#1163

Not a vca but the Instruo Tanh3 is really nice for saturation. It has more subtle range than my intelljel vca on it’s exponential settings and can sound really nice dimed, too.

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#1164

I’m patching into input A and out from Output A. I can here delay coming from channel B but no delay effect from channel A?

I can hear the delay from channel B in the output of A and I can adjust this with the controls. But if I plug a jack into Input B I don’t hear anything on from the channel A output.

#1165

This is the normal behavior. I think you should use input B and Output B if you want to use only one channel, or patch a cable in input B and leave it unconnected.

Edit: from the manual

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#1166

Thanks for the reply, maybe I should have clarified, I want to use both delays in parallel.

The manual says this should work with the setup I described. Unless I missed something, which is entirely possible.