Too true. Ive been considering what I might do with them both (as opposed to what i might buy) and it’s definitely got me piqued.

For sure. Buying something may be the answer, but I’d encourage you to feel pretty sure about it. I think it’s okay to chase novelty if that’s what is fun for you about the format, but it can also expensive to do so. As I usually recommend to people, consider what your goals are. If you can nail that down, you’ll be in a much better position to make decisions.

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I’m building a case for some of my controllers and I would like to have a couple USB switches like the one found on the isms. Is that type of switch passive? I would just need a toggle switch with 4 sets of leads right?

Does anyone know if a passive matrix mixer like this is OK for routing audio signals? i.e. I want to take one aux send from my mixer but route it to 3 different effects at the same time, and was hoping to be able to that from here.

https://www.sssrlabs.com/en/store/sm010/

It should to both CV and audio. The voltage range is a little bit odd (-6…+10V), and if you’re using this matrix to combine signals, the passive signal averaging might not do what you expect. Otherwise, I’ve heard good things about this module.

There’s at least one known, and unfixed issue with that module. Might not be a deal breaker, but you should at least be aware of it.

yup. read about this. I ordered mine direct from SSR last year before reading this thread, and its been laying around since then… I’m hoping my unit was not involved.

I really liked it except no CV = sold and will never but again

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hey folks I got a case recently have been using it to extend my 0-coast for now. I have a grand vision of putting together this case so that it has a few of its own voices as well as the ability to interact with my MS-20, my DAW, and various midi sequencers at my disposal. Any red flags? Also thinking about swapping out the CS-L for a mangrove and just friends.

No red flags to me. CS-L would be a better pick in my mind. You already have a ton of modulation sources, so you don’t really need JF for that. Mangrove is fine. You won’t get a standard complex oscillator from the pair, though you can get some interesting interactions.

Hello, I’m looking for some advice. That’s my current rack, but I’m considering ditching the Hermod since it seems way overkill.

The reasoning behind the Hermod was that it allowed for ample sequencing, LFOs and computer integration, but now i’m not so sure that I need that much, and that space could be used for something else.

I can sequence from an analog 4, but I dont know if that would be enough for a 104hp system. I’m gonna see today if I can use it as a sort of interface between computer and modular for longer sequences too.

Basically I don’t know if I want precise control over the modular or not. I think I’d like to preserve the possibility of sending notes from the DAW occasionnally while being able to run it on its own too. The monome stuff is very tempting, but could I use for example the ansible to connect to the computer through an adapter to make it a midi device rather than host, and then plug a computer ?

I have many questionings and it takes so much time… Another thing is I really want to limit myself to 104hp, and a lot of the skiffs in this thread seem focused on one element. I guess my last question is: is it possible to have a 104hp system that satisfies both sample mangling and synthesis capabilities needs? In this regards the three sisters can for example act both as a filter and as a sound source.

Sorry if this is kind of long, and I dont know if its the appropriate thread for this.
I appreciate any help on any of these points !

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I used to use an Analog 4 to sequence my smaller modular for quite some time. Four channels of any type of CV (v/oct, trig, gate, clock, LFO, envelopes, any CV really) is what you get, and you can control those CV outs from a DAW over USB too. Was very nice but only if four is enough.

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My two cents is that you should stick with one row of well-chosen modules and let them guide you. Basically focus on what your modular can do versus what it can’t.

The design of these modules has gotten so complex over the past couple years that oftentimes one module can do many, many, many things — Three Sisters, for example, can mix, filter, and crossfade signals, as well as generate chords, inharmonic tones, LFOs and a ton of other stuff that I haven’t even discovered yet. And that’s one module.

Personally I’ve found that the “one foot in” attitude (i.e. “I want something that does X, but also Y in case of Z”) oftentimes doesn’t result in anything that great because the “solutions” that come from it typically don’t actually address the fundamental problem: choice.

That said it sounds like you might be looking for something like an Expert Sleepers FH-2, with which you would be able to beautifully sequence your modular with your Elektron or computer — with the caveat, of course, “if that’s what you want.”

I hope this helps!

P.S. You might also want to check out Mutable Instruments Marbles. That and FH-2 might give you the flexibility you’re looking for, and would take up the same space as the Hermod.

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Been trying to get into modular for a while now, but going to stick with it this time and fill up a 104hp. The Make Noise Powered skiff is really a treat compared to the happy ending and pico case I previously owned, and having a nice case is actually good insensitive to finish the instrument. Any thoughts on the possible rigs? I’m also interested in Mimeophon and Qpas and might opt for those as well.

I think there is a period for everyone while getting into modular where you think you can “figure out” what you want by spending countless hours on modulargrid building ideas, watching videos, etc…

It’s just not true, it’s a waste of time… just buy a couple modules, spend time with them, see what works, discover what you want to try next, and buy/sell until you figure it out. Try to spend less, go with an off brand like ladik or doepfer to start to understand the basics. And for god sakes don’t just buy the 10 most popular modules on modulargrid… These smaller systems are honestly, a lot of fun, but I don’t understand the drive to “just” have a 104hp system, might as well just do everything in software for 1/10th the price. I say, if you want to get into modular: buy the ticket, take the ride…

Have you played with any of these modules? I personally hated the SWN, sold it. It’s terribly garish and tries to do too much… Morphagene is certainly cool was also difficult for me to appreciate in the end… I would highly recommend plaits however, amazing value for what you get.

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Hey why did this get moved? Also yes you can see the rack labeled have, that is everything that I have. Actually love the SWN. Just started to click with it lately. My main concern is the size, am considering selling it if only for more room eventually.

I see, didn’t notice… Add a filter and a sequencer then, seems like a good start.

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the morphagene + qpas + mimeophon combo in the upcoming microsound machine seems like a great combo. But with SWN maybe you need more sequencing/control/modulation? this is my bias talking but just friends and teletype are great in a small system for this. definitely a learning curve/investment is necessary but if it sparks any interest for you theres nothing more compact than that ! If you’re sequencing outside of the rack more modulation and yea 3 sisters is great :slight_smile: advice from my limited experience: feel out what you need from what you want to do but cant - then find the most inspiring version of that for your taste. Alternatively if something is really inspiring - go with your gut (harder to stay on budget or within hp this way - but if theres hard limits you’ll hit em when you hit em lol it sure happened to me)

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It probably got moved, because your question belonged in this thread. This is where people ask the kinds of questions you are asking on here.

To be real, you haven’t really given us any context for what you’re trying to do beyond, “I have this. This is what looks shiny.” That’s fine, but it would be helpful if you told us what you are trying to do and how you are controlling it, beause I think it is safe to assume the Trigger isn’t your only control. The same thing kinda goes for you @cachalot. You’ve told us what you’ve got but not what your goals are.

What are you trying to do? Write songs? Jam live? Sound design? What is it about modular that is appealing to you and why does modular speak to what you want to do? You can waste a lot of money not knowing what you’re expecting to get out of modular.

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I’m not a beginner, I was just trying to add to the 104HP inspiration conversation. I don’t have technical questions was just wanting to talk about 104hp rigs. What would be a more appropriate way to add to the 104 inspiration thread than to talk about the inspiration behind the 104HP skiff I’m building.