#916

These are great, arent they. You can also check if Koma is making another set of their version that is way smaller and uses tiny faders instead of pots https://koma-elektronik.com/?product=koma-attenuator-cable

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#917

Its also super easy to make them by yourself with piece of veroboard, 100k pot and two 3,5 mm TS connectors.

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#918

Thanks!

Someday I hope to learn how to build stuff, but for the moment I am working 50+ hours a week (lawyer/college professor) and have many other pressing demands on my time.

So, I am happy to buy assembled things until when and if that someday comes, especially if they are relatively inexpensive, as these are.

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#919

Big bold text is big and bold :wink:

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#920

It’s not quite as compact as these cables/joiners, but a WMD/SSF Quad Passive Attenuator doesn’t need to be racked to be used. I’ve ‘floated’ one in the nest of cables at times when hp was at a premium

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#921

Now that would be a great idea. Perhaps pair that with a 4hp 3d printed case? I’d be all over it.

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#922

Not sure why it came out formatted like that, I didn’t intend for it to do so… I must have inadvertently hit some button…

sorry if it was troubling…

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#923

I have actually been wanting to explore 3d printing 2 3 and 4hp cases for passives. I’ll post about it if I make it work!

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#924

So I love the sloth circuits. I have a triple sloth that I want to keep, but probably won’t be able to fit long term, and a single sloth chaos that I’m about to build. But I’ve found that what I really want is more subtle most of the time. I want a chaotic modulation that stays in the posititive signal range. Built-in attentuation and or offset would be a plus.

Usually, I just want to add a tiny chaos wiggle to a knob, but with the sloths I need to do a lot of external massaging to get subtle wiggles. Is there something out ther that does this more specifically?

I desire a bunch of a little hands to randomly tweak knobs subtly while I’m doing stuff!

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#925

Maybe you could send the sloth through a rectifier to make it positive?

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#926

theoretically Teletype could do this, but I don’t know anything about how the Chaos operator works, nor how much Teletype you’d tele-tie up trying

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#927

I don’t have one but I believe that FrapTools Sapel is a more constrained source of randomness.

I’d be very interested in any insights from Sapel users…

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#928

I’ve been super happy with the OC’s Low-Rentz mode which is a super tamable Lorenz attractor & Rössler attractor. for a slightly less tamable, but still highly useful, version there is a Lorenz attractor in the Hemisphere suite as well: https://github.com/Chysn/O_C-HemisphereSuite/wiki/LowerRenz

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#929

I’m in the very same boat as you here. I’ve both tried to tame it and to emulate it.

I know you don’t need anyone to tell you to use attenuators, but pairing it with a module that accepts a lot of modulation and has built in attenuation makes a ton of difference. I use it primarily to modulate ER-301, which also allows signal inversion and rectification.

(Not necessarily a reason to run out and grab an ER-301, but hey.)

By way of emulation, a clock with some randomness and a flexible envelope generator mostly satisfies what I want from sloths. For example, at the moment I’m doing a lot of clock outs from Pam (slop setting high) to Zadar (flexibility over envelopes and shear variety of them helps here for sure).

ymmv, thought I share some of my experiences!

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#930

Thanks for the suggestions!

I haven’t messed with the chaos operators yet. Good thought!

Yeah, Kinks has a single recitfier circuit, but when I last looked I couldn’t find a compact unit with multiple rectifiers, seeing as I’d want at least 2 or 3 probably? Will look again.

I just got a uO_C and that’s definitely another possibility, though I hate using a general purpose tool for something that I want to use all the time.

Yeah, I’m planning to get one for sure one day, so that is good to know.

#931

i am interested to speak with an actual user of an eleoquencer.
Do you have one? Is it a good composition tool for you?

Caveats?

#932

I’ve got a simple (perhaps stupid) question: is there an easy way to get an EOC gate from an envelope output? Would a comparator do the trick?

I was trying to figure this out and I can’t get my head around it.

#933

Yes, a comparator would do this. You could also use a slope detector.

Edit - perhaps a little detail might be helpful!

Comparator - technically your envelope should hit 0v when it has finished its cycle. Set your “comparison” voltage to that and you should get a gate/trigger when the envelope is done. You may have to tweak things slightly to get it just as you want.

Slope Detector - with the envelope as the input, this should send out a trigger when the voltage is steady - the end of cycle is one of those times. I guess it does depend on what type of envelope you’re using though. AD/AR is going to work better than an ADSR probably as the sustain could give a steady voltage and make the slope detector send out a trigger then.

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#934

Can someone help me understand Low Pass Gates? How are they different from an envelope generator? I also don’t understand how they work as filters.

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#935

Low pass gate is like a vca + a low pass filter at once.
When it’s closed, the volume is 0 and the filter is closed.
When it’s open to max, the volume is max and the filter is open to max.
in between, the filter is closing/opening at the same time as the volume.

That means the high frequencies get cut first, which gives the caracteristic sound.

The confusion about the envelope generation is because of vactrol. Most common LPG designs use vactrol to do the open/close control. Because of that, you can pass a trigger to the control and it will “ring” (which means sound longer than just the trigger duration). But this is the vactrol design, not all LPG will have this.

Here’s a schema made in Reaktor to help:

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