No worries. Personally, I dont like maths so I’m biased :slight_smile: Have a look at Tides ii - the reaso I mentionit is that it adds a lot of modulation plus is a really nice voice. It plays really nicely with warps if you like tzfm complex oscillators as well…
If you want to diy I can send you the links to my github for my buffered mult and s+h (the mult is three copies of the buffered mult from links and the s+h is three copies of the s+h from kinks - it was designed to modulate clouds :slight_smile: )019DB063-347D-4817-ABEA-232FB4B17F3663379C0B-A02C-4895-A801-6449BD422344

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Talking about tides ii I’d advise also to look at Just Friends. Since it has multiple trigger inputs. Also Morphagene would benefit from bipolar modulations.

I think you can do a lot with that setup you’ve already got (I don’t know anything about Neutron though), but to use and make exciting things with external gear together with a eurorack setup requiers some extra thinking process.
I’ve built my setup so I can use it as both a standalone instrument and external processing and found that Ears and Rings from Mutable Instruments are two modules that are crucial for me. Ears is a gateway between the external stuff and the modular system and has a built in envelope follower (which means that the incoming sound you feed to Ears produces a control signal that you can build the patch around, if you will) that is both cheap and takes up a small footprint. You can of course take external signals and process those to other modules that you’re thinking of getting, but that envelope follower is a great thing.
So if I was in your shoes and was planning the next purchase I’d bought Ears and Rings (and maybe soemthing like Maths and Optomix), but that’s just me speaking…
And a more boring answer: If you start patching and learn your gear, you’ll end up noticing what’s missing.

Those two looks absolutely terrific! I could use more buff mults in that size, or go for 2 x 2 hp. Is it even possible to add a fourth set of jacks on that panel you think or will it be too crowded?

You could squeeze them in but it’d start to get tight. I personally hate cramped panels and not being able to easily pull out jacks so I kept it a little larger so that each jack had space either above or below it. But you could certainly fit them in.
Help yourself if you want to do it ! All the panels and pcbs are on my GitHub…

my GitHub

I always think it’s a shame to have Pressure Points without a Brains, given it’s such a small module, and this combo could be really useful for some interactive sequencing of the Morphagene.

To make room, I guess you could just go with Stages and forego Maths, though I’m too much of a Maths fancier to make that call myself, so I’d probably sacrifice the extra ‘channels’ and take out the Stages.

If you end up with spare room after a rethink, and you’re not focused heavily on simplicity, I’d also consider a Disting - in a small setup like this it can bring so many functions to the table, and even if you end up using it as a set-and-forget on your favourite program, it’s small and powerful. But bear in mind it also has some interesting sample modes, as well as stereo effects that can complement the Morphagene’s stereo outputs nicely.

The other low-hp addition I’d look into is a Mutable Ears, another great buddy for the Morphagene, and a solid choice if your focus is on sampling a variety of external sources.

So I think my move here would be to take out Stages and add Brains, Disting 4, and Ears, which I think would leave room for another 2HP module (maybe the Turing machine).

Thanks for all the advice! I’ll look into Tides / Just Friends / Ears / Rings / Brains / Disting. I debated Brains / Ears with myself before, as they all do fit very well in the set-up. Of course not going to get everything at once, so I’ll start with a few and see what fits best next.

Also those S&Hs and mults look great :wink:

Thanks!

You cant go wrong with Ears and Rings - I use them a fair bit (got a few of each !) Ears is a great way to play guitar into clouds…

an FYI given all the mult talk, I gripped one of this guys quad buff mults (4hp, fully normalled) a few weeks back:

one 1:3 mult per hp. holler at u l8r (some of my) stackables.

edit: also the 2hp S/H module is a pretty great purchase that hasn’t left my rack

When window shopping I noticed there’s quite a few new and second hand micro-versions of Mutable Instruments stuff. How decently are these made? They sure seem to pack a lot of punch in a small package. I understand I’d lose out on ergonomics, but would things like pot quality still be good?

If yes, would something like this be reasonable?

Often trimmer pots are used in place of proper panel mounted pots so they feel wobbly and loose (eg like the attenuverter pots on rings etc, but used here as control pots for most things). I really dont like the micro modules! You lose so much in ergonomics… if they are built correctly they should sound identical. There are very few component changes. If they are poorly laid out there is the possibility of increased noise.

I also, personally, think that if you are buying a Mutable-derived module you should buy a factory one - all the hard work was done by Emilie and she should get the rewards of her work rather than the clone builders. (Note - others disagree and it’s just my personal opinion. I have built quite a lot of her modules - but only for personal use and I dont even accept money for spare pcbs I have - I give them away - again, just my personal point of view!)

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Thanks, then I know enough, no further replies needed!

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I’ll mirror what the last poster said with one exception, the “monsoon” version of clouds is MUCH more user friendly and less hp than the regular mutable clouds… I own a bunch of real mutable modules but the normal clouds interface is poor in comparison…

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This is true - monsoon is a great improvement !

Also the other two micro modules that are an improvement are uTemps and uO_C

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Ps Good name - I approve :slight_smile:

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Who’s Monsoon do you have?

I’m wanting the Michigan Synth Works one in black :sunglasses:

I havent got one yet (I’ve got three normal sized clouds) but I’ve been following it since it was first discussed and suggested - I have the design files and gerbers for panel and pcb waiting to go to be fabbed next time I place a big order (got quite a few projects on the go at the moment!)

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First question: Is a uO_c with something like Captain Midi firmware a decent alternative to Braids?
Second question: Can Brains be placed elsewhere or does it have to be next to Pressure Points?

I dont use hemisphere suite ! I have two o_C with normal fw…
But it can’t replace braids - o_C hardware cant really do audio - it would be very limited in bandwidth if you try to do audio given its architecture.

I dont have brains or pressure points so cant answer that at all !! And no desire for either…

Brains is connected to Pressure Points with ribbon cables. You probably could use longer ribbon cables in order to move Brains further away. (see the Brains manual for the details)

The supplied cable is long enough to support two connected Pressure Points, i.e. it will stretch across the length of one PP to reach the next (see the diagram on page six of the manual). So you do have some flexibility with placement, though it makes sense to keep it close by as Brains / PP effectively form a single unit.