You will probably want a VCA or an LPG, although you could get a lot of cool drones without one. I’d suggest the intellijel uVCA or Make Noise Optomix for a case this size.

I’d say Marbles instead of Pam’s and scales:)
Not sure how you want to sequence that rack. Pam’s can do it but not hands on at all

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Wanted to say that one way or another you can’t avoid getting “a lot” of modules (that varies per person ofc). It’s through it you learn what you really like and want. So your perfect rack is not likely to be the first one :slight_smile:

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I didn’t enjoy the slopes of pip slope. Not nowhere snappy enough. I went with intellijel quadra instead, which might count as a pip slope substitute…

Is there anything that has the functionality of Quadra in a smaller footprint?

Four envelopes in 12 hp is about as dense as I’ve seen. most modules at that width are only going to be duals.

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Close but not exact, ornament and crime 8hp version has Piqued.

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I have one, will investigate!

I would consider adding something like Stages. Its one of the most versatile modules: LFO, envelopes, sequencer, sequential switch, VCO, S&H, etc… And VCA’s…without question.

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Honestly, I think very small cases only work well when you have a specific focus and know exactly what you want – which usually means you have some experience with modular. Otherwise, you end up sacrificing a lot of features, playability and fun to meet the need for compactness.

(In a way it’s like an aquarium: it seems at first like a tiny 2.5 gallon tank is the way to go, but you can’t put much in there and it’s actually much harder to keep the water parameters stable and the fish healthy than something in the 20-30 gallon range.)

To start off small and cheap, a semi-modular is really hard to beat. An Erica Pico System III, an 0-Coast or a Neutron pack in a lot more functionality than you’re going to get at that price and size with individual modules, and they’re already set up to be a fully usable synth voice.

Otherwise I wouldn’t start with less than a 104HP case, or something like the Intellijel 7U. I tried to start with a DIY 74HP box, and though I had a good start for the first few modules, I made some poor compromises soon afterward in the name of conserving HP.

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Ok…here we go. Made some changes based on feedback here. Ditched Pam’s. Added Ansible for sequencing, Stages for Modulation, Quadra for VCA’s. Ditched Scales because I am assuming Kria will handle the pitch of the STO’s output, right? Was counting on Scales to generate quantized notes, but it occurred to me that Ansible is a better tool since I have a grid and like to be hands on. 10HP left over for learning…

Also, you guys are doing a crap job of talking me out of this :rofl:. Appreciate the hand holding!

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Looks good, but Qudra is not VCA’s. You might be thinking of the Intelljel Quad VCA.

(Both highly useful, but hardly interchangeable.)

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I think I grabbed the wrong module in haste. Will swap that out. Thanks!

I don’t want to come across overly grumpy, but it feels a bit like you’re building an east coast synth out of modules? It’ll sound great, and the Ansible will get you some cool polyrhythmic stuff. When I started out I had the Doepfer Basic system cause you can learn what the modules do and really patch in a number of different ways. I would add to this the Doepfer A-118-2 (noise, random voltage) and the Doepfer dual sample and hold. These are inexpensive, but would open up a load of possibilities in terms of patching. Hit the FM input of the STO with noise enveloped through a VCA, etc. Use the S&H to get a bit synced modulation on the filter.

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I assume you are going to process this with external FX? You can always get something like uClouds as a eurorack multifx :slight_smile:

Correct! I have, um, too many pedals.

Probably guilty as charged there!

There’s nothing you can do inEurorack that couldn’t be done by other means, but it might be more fun, or lead in different directions.

Yeah, well, I know that feeling living in Ireland where there is no-one selling modular kit. SO for me, I usually try to hunt out shops when travelling for leisure or work. I would suggest given the amount you’re potentially going to spend, that a weekend trip to your closest retailer would still be money well spent!

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For some reason something like this doesn’t even come to mind if we are talking about guitars or flutes. If eurorack is expensive then yeah let’s put it straightforward. Why do we have to come up with such devaluing arguments against a platform?

In my opinion modular has unique process that often leads to unique results. And it’s not productive to deny it.

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For me the “eurorack isn’t totally unique” observation isn’t intended to denigrate eurorack at all, rather to resist a tendency to mystify and fetishize the format so the relationship with it is based on something closer to reality than putting it in a pedestal…

It also encourages the attitude of trying to make productive use of other non-modular gear one might already have…

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Whoa there! I was responding to this comment:

and making the point that the timbres can be generated in other ways than going down the eurorack route.

I agree, which is why I also said:

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