#424

Trigger Riot rules and can melt face but I don’t think it does what a Turing Machine does. I use one in conjunction with a Varigate 4, though, and find they complement each other really well.

For snagging, looping, and varying drums I might recommend a FF CHAOS by Nonlinear Circuits. Send it a gate and it outputs three related gates and a trigger. Maybe too chaotic…

I’m curious about the Beast-Tek Microbe, too. Report back if you go that route!

#425

I think Noise Engineering also have a few modules that do something similar to Grids?

#426

Also, http://www.qubitelectronix.com/modules/rhythm

#427

I mean, what do you mean like a turing machine? A Turing Machine’s gate out is a semirandom gate sequencer already. It’s hard to manipulate in real time, but you can get four channels of semirandom gates out of an Ornament & Crime in its quantizer modes (with each channel acting as a TM).

Are you into semirandom - ie, random with locking? Are you specifically interested in a digital shift register? I can’t tell from your question.

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#428

Mutable Instruments Marbles will do quasi-random (read: musically ‘interesting’) triggers, and much else besides. You can get usable drum triggering with its 3 T outputs patched to kick-like sound, hihat-like sound, and snare-like sound respectively (though obviously you can use other percussion).

Currently hard to come by but there is a batch coming in July, supposedly.

#429

Probably should have made myself clearer.

I guess what I am looking for when I said Turing machine was a device that offers several random triggers for kick/snare/etc modules that could be “locked” or allowed to evolve. (Is it algorithmic sequencers I should be looking at?).

Both marbles and grids interest me but the most intriguing to me seems to be the beast Tek microbe. Some of the others mentioned (which I appreciate) are too big for the space I have left.

#430

This is exactly what I would like from a percussion sequencer.

#431

Are you specifically not talking about Euclidean patterns? What you’re describing sounds like it could be accomplished by a Euclidean pattern sequencer that takes CV modulation. o_C can do this, and I’m sure others.

#432

I would say this is also pretty close to what you’re looking for, theoretically. It’s based on the Turing machine but also says the patterns can be locked.

http://grayscale.info/permutation/

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#433

Does anyone have experience with lots of monome-modules in a tiptop audio mantis case? I really like the form factor, but I’m not so sure about the power - will it be able to handle say a teletype and two ansibles with a grid and an arc while the rest of the case is full of modules (mainly mannequins)? I’m well below what the specs say the case can handle on modulargrid, but that doesn’t account for the additional drain of powering the grid and arc. It would be very helpful to hear of someone with a similar setup and no issues :slight_smile:

#434

Whilst it won’t ‘evolve’ patterns, you should seriously consider a Pamela’s New Workout, especially if you don’t already have a clock.

PNW can do combinations of Euclidean patterns, Random, Probabilties and Locked Loops. You can also rotate 4 or all 8 outputs and control variances of all the parameters from 2 CV ins.

A single channel can output a euclidean pattern of random voltages with random steps skipped, as a locked Loop which you can re-roll manually (similar to the way Turing Machine works) by setting the Loop parameter to 0 and then back to the required loop length.

Aside from this use-case, there are a variety of output types which can be skewed; you can use the outputs as offsets; you have CV control over loading saved sets of all 8 channel settings; it can swing AND you can use it as a clock!

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#435

Pam’s looks great, bit came out after I’d bought an evaton clx to use as my clock. I daresay I could use the 4 clocks from that to interact with logic modules and/or switches to achieve what I’m looking for.

#436

Can some rings user let me know in what way it functions as a clever maybe even complex filter?
I am very drawn to 3sisters but money is tight as always.
I will mostly shape Just Friends with the Filter.

However i should mention aswell that i also work with sampels and Electric Piano into the Modular and do enjoy to mix and route stuff through it.

What draws me to 3sisters is the interconnected frequency shaping wich i assume will open up lots if ways to fine shape and scultp sounds from Just Friends.

To Rings the whole feed it acoustic signals and create acoustic organic sounds is tempting. Obviously the sound source and pseudo poly is tempting too and will likely give me more Sounds than 3sis.
Iam however not that much into the whole Gamelan Gong thing so i dont know if its character suits me.

In case of using rings as filter, how should i imagine that. Just resonating Lowpass? Or are the comb structures active? How would this compare with 3sis what can one do that the other cant?

I have a weakness for a bit of tapey 60s vibe. External sound processing might become more relevant while diving into my little 56hp modular

#437

Rings won’t replace a filter in any way. You can run signals through it, but the signal is used to excite the resonator. Sounds like you’ll want to get a more standard filter and then look into Rings separately. It’s lovely to run oscillators through, but sounds nothing like a low pass resonant filter.

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#438

I see. No way to shape different frequencies of a vco through it then.
More just that quite special resonating, adding its own timbres to the original signal!?

Okay. Do i understand 3sister correctly that multiple filtering takes place on differnt frequencies of the signal(s) wich adds much more complex shaping than a usual even multimode filter?

I am nit at all looking for a classic LPF. Much more into the responses of bandpass and comb filtering, especially responding to each other. And that everything reacts to everything philosophy is what fascinates me so much about Gil‘s modules…

Guess i need to save up for the sisters anyway

#439

Yes, Three Sisters contains three separate filters (low bass, band pass and high pass or three band pass), and you can put a separate signal into each filter. These modules are both pretty popular, so I’m sure you’ll learn more by watching some youtube videos of them in action than you will from answers in text on this thread.

#440

Yep but most rings videos are that gamelan sounds wich bore me. Any single filter videos always sound boring to me too. So the combinations i look for arent really documented too much. Meng Qis video are a good source in sound. So i guess my guts are right…

#441

The Mantis’ power supply is great, but I would strongly encourage you to use an external power supply for your Grid and Arc. There is only 300mA available on the 5V rail and heavy Grid usage can push >400mA. Plus the Grid cannot be powered by the Teletype, so an external solution is required if you want to use the new Grid integration.

#442

Thanks for the reply. Yeah I have an offworld already (in use with teletype currently in my main rack). Well-aware of the teletype-situation. The mantis would just be to have something smaller that’s at least semi-portable. I mainly asked because I’d like to have to bring as few things as possible when moving a small modular rack and norns somewhere to make music. I guess an additional usb-charger doesn’t hurt too much :slight_smile:

#443

Awesome, this is good advice thank you! It’s easy to become tempted by endless shiny new gear! :smile: