#732

Oh, no, even with the guide and using it a bunch, it is a bit of a confounding module. Most of the more experienced users I’ve seen discussing it suggest using it for really basic functions and allowing experimentation to blossom from that, rather than trying to grok the whole thing at once.

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#733

I did exactly that with moving Rene, and it was a nice improvement. And I probably don’t use the advanced functions as much as I could, too, but I assume you’ve seen the Make Noise videos on logic, etc.? I think they’re really helpful.

#734

Outing my voltage nubiness, i wonder if someone could give advice for a bipolar voltage source in my present rack.
There is no generator/offset present. The disting has a precision adder but that needs voltage feeding ofc. The circular moving nature of lfo might not be ideal, or wouldnt it matter?

I got a MI ears that will be added and starting with 16mm film i will use the rack for field rec and manipulation aswell. About the only thing i really think about buying is another JF (putting the passives external). But that might not be necessary Given SOS w/ w/.

Can i somehow use for example an used sound out of JF or Ears and route it through the precision adder for bipolar cv?

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#735

Use Disting as an LFO? It should work well.

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#736

I do not think it would give the control i look for, driving w/ with a controlable static cv source, static + to static -
An lfo will constantly move up/down. But yeah i should find out if super long cycles are possible…still not ideal

#737

You could use something like a MI Shades, which can produce and mix bipolar voltages.

#738

Sure. But i meant inthe case as is. Is there anything i might oversee?
What about even static unipolar cv?
Ears is on the way

#739

you’re likely to know your case and what modules are in it much better than any of us :wink:

the disting might be able to produce said voltages—you should check the manual to confirm or deny for sure. Shades really is the better suggestion, though, sorry to say.

#740

One CV track of ansible (surely you’re not using all four all the time in this small rack?) sending the same note constantly through the precision adder of disting should give you a constant bipolar DC offset.

Also, from the disting manual, it seems like in precision adder mode, if you don’t patch anything into X and Y, A and B should just be a positive and negative (inverted) version of the DC offset you dial in with the knob. I don’t have a disting, but shouldn’t that just be a useful voltage source for you?

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#741

This might be too specific of a question, but hopefully someone here has experience with the gear in question.

I want to have my Electribe 2 follow the clock of PNW (or vice versa) but I’m not sure which settings (on either!) will make it so they are both utilizing the same type of gate. Every time I hook one to the other, the tempo is all off. Anyone know what I should set them to so they are speaking the same language?

Thanks and sorry for all the parentheticals.

#742

Dunno why i missed that. Didnt try hard enough i suppose. Thanks a lot!!

#743

maybe a frap tools 321? I use it to bipolar-ize unipolar signals all the time, amongst many other utility uses. makes it’s way into every patch.

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#744

hey all (again),

i recently built a small system (Tiptop HEK) to make noisy / percussive / tonally varied / free-form sounds, drones, etc. Before going with the HEK, i grabbed a Rubicon (mk1) from Analogue Haven, at a healthy discount. i was thinking that i might go with a Mantis case, so module size wasn’t an issue. now that it (space) is an issue, i’ve been looking at smaller voice modules, and am thinking about trading the Rubicon for a Loquelic Iteritas, which can get quite noisy and extreme-sounding, quickly. while i do like some of the timbres, i’m wondering if it can be reined in a bit, possibly achieving more tenuous / delicate sounds (in the upper register), and still be aggressive / extreme etc. for gnarly, lively drones. I do like its immediacy, or what i perceive it to be – immediate, hands-on, characterful, etc.

alternately, could I (should I) hold on to the Rubicon and learn how to patch it creatively, to get more characterful sounds–like woody / reedy chirps, dirty bell sounds, and (possibly?) gnarly-esque, FM-ish blazing, peeling, metallic timbres (?) – i’m modulating with Plaits, Wogglebug, Batumi, 0’coast, etc. - all of which i’m in love with (except for Wogglebug, so far)

would there be much overlap between Plaits and Loquelic Iteritas, both being digital voice modules? would it be worthwhile to tough it out with the Rubicon, and learn its potential–learn how to patch it effectively, etc? is the Loquelic Iteritas very deep/varied, sound design-wise, or is it possibly more one-dimensional than the Rubicon? i’m not really going for extreme / harsh / excessive sounds (most of the time), but i don’t mind its potential for full-bore nastiness. i like that the LI is more compact, which would open up some options. anyone care to chime in? my apologies for the long-winded inquiry. cheers, everybody

#745

Have you tried adjusting Pamela’s New Workout’s PPQN setting? I kind of remember having to adjust that to get it in time with an SQ-1.

#746

I have neither, but looks like r beny is using a CV.ocd box between his in this video:

#747

Loquelic was the first module I got and it’s probably still my favourite oscillator. I don’t have experience with rubicon but I’ve found LI to be really versatile, if you want less harsh you can leave fold down, and if you leave mod down too you’ve essentially got standard waveforms, square, saw etc on morph. The way the 2 oscillators interact is controlled by the master switch (a or b) but in the centre they’re not synced and this can lead to huge variation using fine tune, lots of interesting beating etc. I have a plaits and really like it as a versatile voice with many different discreet settings but I wouldn’t know how to get most of what I get out of LI there. I’d also have to mention the shapeshifter if you’re looking at complex oscillators, don’t mind a bit of menu stuff and have some hp, now that thing is deep.

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#748

I don’t have a Rubicon, but it is generally thought of as best paired with another VCO, particularly a Dixie, and a wavefolder. You should be able to get some really gnarly stuff out of that combo, as well as nice smooth sounds.

I also don’t have a Loquelic. I tried one very briefly at the Noise Engineering booth at Knobcon last year, and it didn’t grab me at the time. I would up with a Cursus instead, and then sold it after a couple months since it just wasn’t fitting in for me… Loquelic would probably have been a better choice for me :slight_smile: now I kind of want to make space for one… (I have more than enough oscillators, it’s a bad habit :laughing:)

Personally I love the Buchla 259-like complex oscillator concept (similar to Rubi/Dixie/uFold) and have both a Hertz Donut and a Double Helix for two very different takes on it. The former does really good linear FM and has a digital edge and instability to it, the latter is a dual saw core VCO with exponential FM, a built in wavefolder and LPG, an extra LFO and a unique dual mod bus, and has all kinds of crosstalk and weirdness that gives it part of its character.

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#749

Loquelic is advertised as a “complex oscillator”. I have the Rubicon, but I don’t have room for another VCO and a wave folder. I’m limited to 3U / 84 hp (HEK) for the foreseeable future. I do have an 0-coast, along with several other modules that could possibly be used to modulate the Rubicon.

If I were to replace the Rubicon with something like a LI, or a Mangrove (?), then it would also leave me space to add a function generator, something like a MN Function or a WMD/SSF Mini Slew, either of which could be very useful.

As it is, I’ve been learning how to use the Plaits module, modulating it with a Triple Sloths and the Batumi. It’s lovely. I’d like a second oscillator to compliment and augment it, and I’m wondering if the LI might be a smart alternative to the Rubicon, as it’s more compact and offers a bit more immediate functionality and features. I appreciate the responses. I suppose I’m still looking for opinions, or any feedback regarding these alternatives.

#750

This demo for LI is actually quite subtle:

I don’t have much to add, other than: Plaits does a lot and is very immediate – if wildly different between modes. Your instinct to add something like LI seems well placed. It goes places Plaits isn’t designed for, but has that immediacy that, I for one, definitely respond to.

If you don’t love the Rubicon, you have to be pretty careful with a small case, because having more modules that give you more options will probably win the day! :relaxed:

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#751

I’m looking for a 4hp manual gate module. Is there anything folk would recommend? So far I’m looking at Mutable Ears and Ladik’s Dual Arcade Manual Gate/CV, but not finding much else. The Ladik looks tempting since it has two buttons, but I don’t need the two manual CV sources. I’m also eyeing Synthwerks’ 4hp FSR module.

Any others I should consider?