#65

I was wondering if I could get some help with figuring out what a logical next step/addition/change would be for my current setup:

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Really liking Ansible (with Kria) for sequencing, the probability is very nice to have to get some variation. I Don’t think I need to add or change anything there at the moment.

Most of the time I at least want a basic drum “kit” running (kick, snare, hats and clap) and whilst I like Peak’s kick drum I’m not really a fan of the snare. The hats are OK, main thing I’m missing there is some way to modulate them a bit for variation.
To alleviate this I’ve been considering adding a 2hp hat, which gives open and close hi-hats as well as CV control over their sound. The common alternative options from Tiptop don’t seem to add a whole lot for me, yet take up more space.
The other option I’m considering is adding a Pico DRUMS which will give me 2 sampled drums and CV control over a parameter you can choose. I don’t really mind that they’re samples, since I’ve got enough nice kick and snare drum samples that I would be totally happy with, especially with some variation added via CV control.

Any obvious issues with these two options? Are there better options available?

Because I’m using Peaks for drums most of the time I’ve been using the uO_C for envelopes as well as for LFO/modulations.
I noticed so far I find AD envelopes a lot easier/nicer to deal with than ADSR envelopes and whilst the Ornament and Crime can easily handle all kinds of envelopes it’s not most hands-on action, which for envelopes for a voice I find not entirely ideal.
The addition of some drum modules as described above would free up Peaks for envelope (and LFO) duties, so I think I’m fine there for now. Though maybe something like a Maths isn’t a bad idea?

One thing I’m still missing is a filter. With all the drums and using multiple outputs from my single oscillator I’m already running out of inputs in the Quad VCA. So I’m wondering if makes sense to look at filters which have a mixer built-in or should I simply look at some utility mixer and a filter with a single input?

Some of the filters I’m considering are the AJH Minimod Transistor Ladder Filter (3 audio inputs) and the Analogue Systems RS-100S (2 audio inputs).
They do have multiple inputs but are also quiet big, not sure if that trade-off is worth it vs smaller filter + utility mixer.

#66

My 2c. In terms of filters, the AJH is lovely, but big for a 3U rack. Me, I’d want a multimode filter, perhaps Intellijel Polaris, or Mannequins Three Sisters. Drums, again I’d want something that can multitask, so Pico Drums, Tiptop Audio ONE, or WMD Chimera or Fracture.

#67

Thanks for the pointers!

Why would you pick a multimode filter? Because of the flexibility or because of something else?

If I want to pass more than 1 signal through the filter I’d need a mixer, which should probably have some attenuation to control both the mix and the gain going into the filter, which at the very least would add 4-6hp, which means combined with the 10hp from a Three sisters or Polaris I’d end up using more hp than with the AJH.
Would you still suggest any of these filters in that case?
Is it an odd thing to pass multiple audio signals through the same filter?

I’ll have a look at the WMD modules, thanks!

#68

[quote=“simonvanderveldt, post:67, topic:12103”]
Why would you pick a multimode filter? Because of the flexibility
[/quote]Yes, that would be my main reason. If you want to run multiple signals through the same filter, then perhaps the Three Sisters in preference. You could also pick up a small mixer (SubMix6 for example). I think that a small mixer and multimode filter would be a better choice than the AJH. Though if you wanted to go that way, the Morgasmatron would also be worth considering.

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#69

Definitely need a filter - Three Sisters would be flexible, Polaris is probably also a good idea but I don’t have any experience with it. Some kind of effects or processing would add a huge new dimension to this as well - uClouds, DLD, Chronoblob, Morphagene…but you may want to wait a bit on that one because it seems likely that Mutable is about to release a bunch more new stuff, as well as W/ (the forthcoming mannequins module) looking like it’s going to be audio-processing/sampling based.

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#70

Re: Filters, when I was starting out, two I wish I would have looked into more are the MI Ripples and Xaoc Belgrad.

Ripples has a pretty ideal ui…6hp, built in vca, cv over resonance, good self-oscillating pitch tracking (for use as an oscillator). A con would be that it doesn’t have a high-pass out.

Belgrad has a very creative interface and sounds really good…definitely worth reading about and watching videos. Cons would be that it is pretty wide at 14hp, and the two filters can’t be unlinked and used as stereo.

If the stereo thing (or use of the filter end-of-chain) is important to you, I don’t think there’s a module available that would make sense over just running the signal out of the modular into an Elektron Heat.

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#71

As @jlmitch5 said, Ripples is a nice choice. It also has a VCA function and can be used as a sine oscillator. My favorite filters are the Three Sisters and the Pittsburgh Modular Filter (Binary Filter is the closest thing in their current lineup).

Three Sisters gives you the multimode options but also gives you interesting stereo/spatial processing and can be used as a sine oscillator. For versatility, I think it’s nice to have a filter you can ping to give you a tone, which can be used percussively (put a gate into the quality input and it’ll resonate). Nicola Ratti uses this idea all the time - I think his rig is mostly filters. Three Sisters and Ripples both track 1v oct, so that’s really valuable too. You could totally build a set up with several filters.

The new Mutable Plaits is worth checking out if you want more drum sounds and it could change roles in a small rig like yours AND it has built in envelope/lpg to free up your quad vca.

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#72

Hi all,

I need advices for a first setup. I decided to dive into modular after seeing the potential of an hybrid setup using Expert sleepers’ ES-8 like in this video https://youtu.be/6mOAgqcM2eI

This means VCV Rack compatibility, as well as Audulus and Max which I’m starting to patch. I also have an Octatrack, but haven’t explore the midi connectivity of this machine thus far.

My question is, considering I will have not much money left after buying the ES-8 with a case, what would be a good first module? I’m looking for a lot of different functionnalities, since this will be my only module in the rack for a little while after this initial purchase. But I will still have access to the digital emulations, like the MI included in VCV.

My first thoughts were: Plaits, 3 sisters, Maths, Optomix.

What I want to do = Buchla, Organic sounds, Generative music, in Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith’s style.

Any suggestions ?

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#73

I think Maths would be cool for this (or Rampage + attenuators). You could play around with Rampage in VCV to see if you are inspired by the dual slope generator style of module (this serge module is where the design of these types of modules is inspired by).

Kaitlyn Aurelia Smith uses a Tempi to trigger sequences of a lot of different voices and make some very cool things happen timing-wise. Could be a cool option too.

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#74

As far as small and versatile multimode filters are concerned, the Bastl Cinnamon is great. Works well as a sine oscillator too, and has enough input gain to overdrive signals, plus two “character” switches that mess up sounds in a good way.

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#75

Yes. Cinnamon sounds great and it’s quite affordable and small. It’s my favourite filter but I like overdriven sound. LP, HP and BP are simultaneously available, which is also nice. Definitely worth checking out.

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#76

this is probably the best place to put this:

i’ve been thinking about sequencers a lot lately. i have an SQ-1, and i want something that is rackable, has more channel options, is easier to program, has more. at first i was thinking about the prizma, voltage block, rene, etc but then i started thinking about… the teletype.

this place is great because there is SO MUCH information on and support for teletype, but i’m having a hard time finding an answer to this question: why should i choose teletype? is it too complicated? is it overkill? how hard is it to make it musical? i know that it would interact well with the other stuff i have based on what i’ve read here. i don’t have too much coding experience but i spend a lot of time in big databases so i kinda know how code syntax works. anyway i’m leaning toward trying to find one secondhand but i wanted to talk it out with some other people who use or have used it.

#77

It’s surprisingly musical, the tracker mode makes it really much like a “normal” sequencer if you choose to use it like that.

It’s not really much coding, maximum length for a script is six lines and quite simple things make for musical outcomes.

I was pleasantly surprised by how simple Teletype is to use. It was a major concern for me also.

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#78

My go to minimal teletype sequencer:

Put a trigger to in 1 and make the script of 1: CV 1 N PN.NEXT 0

You can then update the values and length within tracker mode to get a chromatic sequence based on whatever root note you tuned your oscillator to.

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Teletype workflow, basics, and questions
#79

What you said. I also have this clever cheat-sheet for a blues scale :slight_smile:

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#80

That isn’t a blues scale. If C is your root, a blues would be C - Eb - F - Gb - G - Bb - C

#81

I’m somewhat new to modular… I have a White Whale and Meadow Physics… I’m wondering how many ADSRs / EGs everyone uses w/ these? It seems like the more the better… I have 4 already and it seems barely enough.

What are some typical module chains you use?

Cheers

#82

Perhaps this would be better asked in the New To Eurorack thread?

https://llllllll.co/t/new-to-eurorack-ask-questions-here

#83

It really depends on the rest of the modules and what kind of sounds you’re looking for. A traditional monosynth voice uses two, but one can easily use more. Consider some loopable ARs to complement full EGs, like Maths, Quadra, or Tides.

#84

Just saw that make noise are making a video series of Allen Strange’s Electronic Music. Looks good so far.

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