#1228

Cold Mac can do attenuation, offset, and VCA. Mangrove’s AIR can serve as a VCA for that module too. It depends on whether or not you need those functions and if Cold Mac gets tangled up trying to do more than one thing (which can be fun though!:open_mouth:). I’ve been working with a similar small system (84 hp) and enjoy limitation – I have to choose what role Cold Mac will take on in my patch. Really is the glue that holds it together for me at least.

But yeah, as the others are saying, you don’t exactly need a clock source if you trigger from the metro script. You can also trigger scripts manually using the F keys on the Teletype keyboard.

Here’s my system for reference. I have a Meng Qi DLPG which I use as a VCA, pinged LPG, or put a fixed voltage from walk/teletype through it and ping it for short envelopes into Mangrove. If I need a mixer, I’ll just use my Mackie.

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#1229

I have a similar setup in 84hp which consists of all mannequins and teletype plus PNW. Depends on what you wanna do, I think it is good enough for experimenting sounds, also agree external clock is not a must on TT.

The most wanted things I missed in my system are mixer, attenuators and VCAs. Yes, CM can do the jobs but it cannot do all at once. I would recommend you the Intellijel 4U case, so that you can have above mentioned utilities on the 1U row.

Also think of expanding space, it would be good to leave 20hp or something for the future grow.

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#1230

I’m wondering if anyone is using Bluetooth to get audio into their Eurorack. I believe that ADDAC make a module for this.

What has your experience been?

I use my iOS devices a lot and was thinking this could be a nice way to integrate them…

Thanks!

#1231

I use the ADDAC one with my iPhone to play music I then sample and mangle, audio quality is fine but the range is quite low, I’d estimate it only works reliably up to maybe 6-8 feet away from the module.

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#1232

X1L3 is working on a bluetooth module i believe, not sure when out https://x1l3.bigcartel.com/

I have notions of getting something like this to kludge into a module :slight_smile: https://www.amazon.co.uk/KKMOON-Wireless-Bluetooth-Decoder-Control/dp/B01FXLGZD6/ but cheaper from china

#1233

Seems like the IJ 84hp 4U case would be a perfect vehicle for a Teletype/Mannequins setup, I’ve been toying with that idea myself.

I’ve only had Teletype for a couple days so I’m far from competent in using it, so it’s been helpful to have PNW for easy external clocking with some additional modulation as a bonus. Maybe one day I’d be brave enough to throw in Cold Mac in lieu of Tangle Quartet but having a set of simple VCAs is very appealing for me, especially with two Mangroves.

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#1234

Bear in mind that the 4U 84hp Intellijel case is no longer produced! Sort of a bummer, seems like a good size to me, too.

#1235

Yeah that is a bummer, I had my eye on a used one that sold right after I decided I wanted it.

Love the size but you could always go 104hp with blank panels on the sides/future room for expansion!

#1236

I’m thankful to have grabbed a 42 and 84 4U before they were out of production. A little Grau 6U would be nice to have. The biggest issues with the Intellijel cases are no lids/lack of portability. I found a cool soft lunch ‘box’ for the 42, but the 84 is the thing I’m more likely to take out and use. The 42 is just sort of a storage case for some extras that haven’t sold or I’m not going to sell.

If you want compact and are willing to pay for shipping, the Grau seems great. Or just keep your eye out for used Intellijel. I grabbed my 84 on tour. Just went over to a random dude’s house that posted on a FB group about it. Saved some bucks since he didn’t have to deal with shipping too :slight_smile:

#1237

So I love Grids with all my heart, but the patterns it produces are very focused on patterns that make the most sense for percussion. Does anyone know of a module that generates triggers that more closely emulate melodic patterns? Micro Edit: Or alternatively, means of massaging extant triggers into more naturalistic melodic patterns.

#1238

I’ve found that a tool that filters rhythmic patterns is highly productive for producing useful melodic gating. The best one I know of is Noise Engineering’s Integra Funkitus. You can derive up to four new gate streams from one or more gate/trigger streams, and it has some interesting modes. An advantage to this approach is that it also keeps your melodic gating in close (but not too close) relationship to your percussion. Brilliant module. Equally useful for percussion purposes. Just mult one or more of your trigger streams from Grids into the I.F. and watch it go. Adjust pots to taste.

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#1239

2 options: pre- or post-processing Grids. @mduodoroff mentioned a post processing solution.

Some “Pre-Processing” solutions:

  • multiplying the clock going into Grids
  • modulating X and Y on a per beat basis, or unsynced to the clock
  • flip flopping FILL between max and an intermediate value
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#1240

For a little more info, I’m currently using Grids, Plog, and Integra Solum to generate all of my gates. I’m still experimenting with combining gates with the probibalistic gates from IS’s “Wack” mode.

Already on my to-buy list! But I was planning to use it to mix between different rhythm sources, I was intending to use Ansible so I can program generate/sequences when I want to. I will definitely experiment once I get my hands on one. :+1:

Those are good thoughts! Trouble is I still need my Grids to do what it’s doing already. I could get a second Grids I guess? I’ll give this suggestion a swing and see how the results sound. Thank you!

#1241

You are perhaps conflating the Integra Funkitus with the Confundo Funkitus, another great module, but a very different one. (The confusion is common.)

#1242

Yep. Sorry! :sweat_smile: Their naming schemes throw me sometimes. My bad.

Might be worth trying as a more dynamic alternative to Plog, though I do like Plog.

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#1243

just to add to your question - anyone use soundmachines radiostar - https://www.sound-machines.it/product/rc1radiostar/ - looks very nice - quite big and expensive?

#1244

Have you ever taken a look at the intellijel Shifty? it will do both cv and gates and create interesting melodic patterns based on one input and then direction. I believe you can also use it to create chord stacks and sequential switching.

https://intellijel.com/shop/eurorack/shifty/

#1246

Yeah, I’ve done similar things with Stages, and that kind of gets to the heart of what I’m asking: Rythmic gate patterns are good for stacatto, but they don’t tend to feel like the way someone would play an instrument.

I had an idea to play with a burst generator yesterday (in my case the uO_C with Hemisphere).

  • Fed a clocked LFO from Stages through to the trigger quantity (which I attenuated down to max out at like 4-6 tiggers).
  • Also had another clocked Stages LFO modulating that LFO’s rate.
  • A third clocked Stages LFO varied the rate of burst output.
  • Used Plog to OR a steady clock division with a 50% probability division from Integra Solum to give me a steady hit with sparser random hits to feed the burst generator.
  • Used a channel of Stages for Sample and Hold notes from a uO_C’s quantizer (also clocked), so I could have some notes repeat.
  • Fed burst triggers and notes to Plaits in string mode for sounds.

It made some nicer patterns. I’m considering a Befaco Burst for the job, as it seems really well suited to this problem with a lot more controls over the output + internal probability, but I want to experiment with what I can get from uO_C more first.

Also still working on it. :+1:

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#1248

Does the KMix track all 8 inputs simulateously when being used as an audio interface?

#1249

Essentially, it takes a trigger, and produces a stream of subequent triggers based on it’s settings. It can be clocked (and subsequently divided) or unclocked. It can vary the distribution of the output (more triggers at the start or end or an even distribution). You get CV control over all the salient bits.