Seconding what xenus_dad said about delay/reverb not being modular’s strength for a starter setup… I myself mostly got into eurorack to build a glorified effects box but the aim being to get things which aren’t available in pedal/rack form, mostly filters. So i’d recommend getting some filters. Many of them can self-oscillate and double as a VCO too

reverb-wise one thing eurorack makes very easy is real spring reverb, there are some small and cheap modules for this and assuming there’s room for the reverb tank in your case then that’s an otherwise desktop-cumbersome effect neatly hidden away :slight_smile:

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I have much thinking to do.

Or, I have much buying, testing and changing to do.

Thanks, that helpful. What you are experiencing with the DLD seems similar to what I have going on with Marbles.

Can’t thank you and everyone one else on the forum enough for all the help with my noob questions. Just wanted to update to say that I got my first piece of analog gear a few days ago, a Behringer Neutron! I think it’s gonna be a great intro to modular workflow and synths and something I can expand on…

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Frequently :grin: Since getting into Eurorack in October 2016, I’ve sold/traded away 76 modules and own 36 currently.

  • I want a “lean and mean” system where every module pulls its weight, with little redundancy and maximum versatility.
  • I want each module to inspire me more than it frustrates me.
  • I want each to feel like it fits with what I’m doing creatively, without having to fight its nature.
  • I want each module to have an active role and not sit around unused. (If I know I’m just focusing on a particular area temporarily, that doesn’t count – for instance I’ve been on a drone kick but I’m not selling my sequencers. Likewise, unique modules that I don’t use frequently, but do use, which have no more versatile equivalent, are kept – like the Doepfer PLL)
  • Sometimes I’ve just wanted to consolidate a bit, or make changes as part of an overall plan.

I do try to make sure I know exactly why I’m letting a module go, and perhaps give it an extra chance or two, before I make the decision.

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I’ve got strange issue with my Befaco Rampage and FSS VAC1 quad LGP. When I plug the OUT A from Rampage into any of the CV ins on the VAC 1 it stops the ramp dead. Out B does not have this effect.

Any ideas? The Rampage is DIY, not built by me. It works fine plugged into any other CV in on other modules.

I could post a video if helpful.

I don’t have a Rampage but do have a Maths, which has this problem when the unity output is patched to my passive LPGs. From my admittedly poor understanding, this is because the Maths unity out has a low output impedance to give better tracking behavior when patched to V/Oct inputs (like when using it to create portamento) so it gets stuck like this when patched to something without sufficiently high input impedance (like a vactrol). If this is indeed the same problem, you can work around it by patching through a buffered mult.

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=180173

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Issues like that are common with Rampage and passive LPGs.

It can help to run the output through an attenuator, or a mixer or a buffered mult or almost anything.

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Thanks @csboling and @Starthief - that is definitely the same problem, but with Maths. Good to know at least it’s not my rampage at fault.

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That’s a lot of modules!
Any experience with Sapel? Thinking of that instead of Marbles.

Nope, I’ve never used Sapel. To be honest I had very little interest in random modules until beta testing Marbles, and found I really enjoyed it.

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6-12 months Id say. and it’s a mix of “not really getting what i want out of it, but it still contributes” and “well that’s been sitting unused in my 3u for a year.”. I don’t acquire a lot of modules and, with recent exception due to module purchases, change my main 6u build very slowly.

of course, if you have something that’s taking up space and you’d rather have some cash, move it along don’t stress yourself.

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Sometimes I Make the decision that a module is not for me too soon based on me buying and selling a Rene twice. Thinking about buying one for the third time.

I have yet to regret selling a module. If something is not getting used to my satisfaction, I sell it.

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One of the modules that I sold with good reason, I felt nostalgic about later and bought a second one… and then I didn’t love it and sold it again.

With another, I sold it, missed it a while later, acquired another one – and the knobs are physically better, so I’m happier with the second one :slight_smile:

With another, I used to love it, found myself not really using it, sold it. Then a newer revision came out, and I bought that. It’s good, but it’s not getting a lot of love right now. I’m going to give it a fair chance in the new environment I’m setting up.

And I sold my original Ornament & Crime, but bought a uO_C later in order to use Hemisphere Suite. It suits me a lot better and feels like a completely different module.

There are times when I think “I should have kept my DPLPG” but I’m okay without it (I do have a Natural Gate!). And I think now that it might be fun to play with Synchrodyne and the Doepfer BBD – but Synchrodyne was an expensive, often awkward, weird module that I had a hard time fitting into my music.

So, no regrets here either. :grin:

I have both the Sapel and Marbles in my case right now. I love the Sapel! It’s a fantastic random voltage module with tons of outputs. It’s great for self patching and generative melodies. But, I don’t think I would recommend it over Marbles. Because of 2 features of the Marbles: being able to lock patterns and setting the scale used for quantized voltages.

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I have sold,…,eh nothing other than the two small cases I started with and the row power that went with one. I take a while to buy, and am fortunate enough to have enough space to not need to sell. There are a couple of modules that I might ultimately sell, and are not used regularly, but then I go back after a while and find something new that I like about them and so they get another reprieve from the auction block.

Good points. I’m going to keep trying with Marbles. I thought it was going to be an instant melody machine, but not yet. I need to follow all of the tips in the Marbles thread!

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One thing that’s really opened up Marbles for me is clocking t and X separately.

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cannot emphasize the above point enough.

I traded Marbles away but reacquired one very recently.

If you have another sequencer, feeding it to Marbles in its record mode can be neat. You can lock in your sequence and then let it randomize within itself or feed it new notes over time. The gates section can also be nice, and it finally made sense for me to make use of both sections. Originally I wasn’t really taking advantage of the gates, which is why I let it go.

My main gripe with Marbles was lack of recall, but feeding it with another sequencer kind of solves for that for me. Still seeing if it will ultimately do what I want it to, but I’m more optimistic.

It always comes back to what your musical goals are. If you have a good idea of what you’re expecting a module to accomplish, it’s much easier to evaluate rather than a general, “Do I like this?”

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