Good guidance.it always seems to come around to clearly defining one’s goals.

I have used Sapél since its introduction as a replacement for the Wogglebug (I wanted more modulations). Sapél is an excellent random source in the the same West Coast vein—gobs of fluctuating modulation voltages that are clockable and ready to go. I don’t think of it as a melody mill, although paired with the right quantizer and clocking, you can certainly make melodic stuff. It does not produce repeating patterns, though.

Nobody has really cracked the Eurorack module that can generate melodies, vary them, and then return home later. The forthcoming Qu-bit Bloom may be the first to do so, although we won’t really know for some months.

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As much as I’m struggling with the quality control and service quality of Verbos (I had to return my new HO two times because of issues): I love the sound of their oscillators, so I think the best partner for my Verbos Harmonic Oscillator would be their Complex Oscillator. Does any of you have this combination – and if so: are you happy with it?

On MW is a thread about tuning issues with some earlier revisions of the Verbos Complex Oscillator, but nobody answered my question on which revisions should be avoided and how to identify the revisions. Does any of you know more about it?

Thanks!

Yeah, wrestling with my desire for quick musical generation with desire for sheer randomness. Going to experiment more with Marbles, but the Sapél is in my brain bucket.

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something i’ve dabbled with is self-patching marbles but also using other random sources to shape its paths. i don’t have a sapel (using Telephone Game or Batumi mostly) but the pair can only be a good idea. see you in the Marbles thread.

Preach. I’ll add that Tuesday can do this, but the knobs are extremely precise so dialing in the exact value becomes a challenge. That’s what drew me to it, the patterns generated are reproducible. Though my gut instinct is that it needs more iteration. Still a neat module!

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@grey @mdoudoroff

basically waiting to see how Bloom does its thing eh

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When Andrew was asked about recall of sequences in the first video I saw, he said it wasn’t something the module could do as of NAMM but maybe before release? (if I am recalling correctly) It’s also a module that I hope they’re ready to do firmware updates for, because it’s not something all of their modules support. As is it looks like a Qu-Bit spin on Marbles, which is welcome but maybe not for me? I’ll definitely be watching any previews about the launch modules though.

A plus for Tuesday is that the module is open source.

I find myself curious about Knight’s Gallop and White Gallop. Has anyone used either or both of them?

Teletype does Euclidean very well and easily of course, which is one of the excuses I used to buy it :grin: but KG has those revised Euclidean and Anti-Euclidean tables that intrigue me, and the record mode, and various algos for the second output. The description of WG and its asymmetrical rhythms fascinates me though.

I just worry that it’d be covering ground I can handle well enough in TTY already.

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I think about Shakmat’s stuff pretty often, but have yet to use any of it. (He types after considering 4 Bricks Rook for the umpteenth time.)

I often use Pressure Points with Tuesday. It makes control and reproducibility a lot easier.

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I built a knights gallop, but have since sold it. I didn’t really like the UI; dialing in a rhythm wasn’t hard but remembering all the options with very little visual feedback was. The revised euclidean patterns are indeed nice, but I bet it wouldn’t be hard to come up with something similar via Teletype.

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I think one of the problems is that having one established sequence of pitches within a scale, then merely changing it semi-randomly to other pitches in the scale, then (ideally) returning to the first pattern, isn’t necessarily all that interesting. You can certainly set this sort of thing up in a sequencer like the Eloquencer—use the probability features to create a random sequence, then replicate it to another pattern, permute, then return to the stored first pattern.

More interesting variation comes from changes in root, scale and harmony. This is why I’ve been somewhat obsessed with the Sinfonion since it was first demoed. The Sinfonion promises to shift us away from explicit pitch sequencing and toward manipulating how a sequence is quantized, making the latter modulatable and playable. Hopefully, they’ll manage to get the thing built and shipped one of these days

Thanks, that’s good to know. I find that sort of thing pretty annoying so I probably wouldn’t enjoy it either.

Has anyone here tried playing a Morphagene using a Tetrapad or Pressure Points? I feel like it could be a cool way to play splices in my eurorack. Like a mini MPC I guess.

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Anyone have any experience with the Intellijel uScale v1? I just nabbed one to replace my v2 (which I love) to save a couple HP in my 4u 84 case.

Morphagene + pressure points is a lot of fun! I don’t have the PP anymore but would often patch the voltage outs to slide/size/speed, pressure out to morph or a filter/fx and the trigger out to the play input and/or an envelope. This creates a really immediate and perform-able sample player.

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great!! Thank you for the info!

The playing with existing audio into and out of modular does excite me. So I need to work out how to sort those line levels. But to get started I’m thinking a Hermod as my main sequencer, Plaits as a voice, and some basic utilities will get me going. Hermod can sequence my Modal Skulpt also. I know I’ll quickly add more.

The 96HP rack I have will become the area where I control the rest. That’s the plan. Sequencing, input from keyboards etc will all happen here and the main rig will exist behind it when I’ve learned a lot more. I’m not worried about the cost, it’ll happen over time.

I’ve been playing with VCV but it keeps crashing on my 2018 MBP. I may try my 2013 MacBook Air.

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does anyone have any thoughts on the Intellijel vs Befaco spring reverb modules? I think i am leaning tords the Befaco one but am open.