maybe a 2hp vca would do me ? no inversion, but I think function has an inverted out down there ?

@mutedial I’ve been using a small mixer pretty successfully w/ left channel as input and right for output. when I get a chance I should try both channels in for stereo/dual mono

re: cold mac, I feel like I’m kinda drawn to the “mysticism” of it (to contrast the sometimes dominant ‘computer does what I tell it to’ workflow of my art/life), but I can’t say how useful it would be in this small of a space. the bottom output part seems cool for spicing up simple waves.

too deep for the 4ms pod I’m planning sadly. could take some time & build a case though.

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I was too at first. Probably just didn’t build enough muscle memory and pay attention to it to click, and I realized I need just 1 or 2 of the things it did. It does pack a ton of useful features very creatively in a small place, and can do all sorts of neat tricks when self-patched. With any module it depends on your goals and the ecosystem (although modules can lead you to other goals as well if you’re open). If you’re fortunate to be be able to spare the cash it’s worth trying, they sell pretty quickly if you decide it’s not for you.

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lol well the good news is this is a downscale from my previous plans if u can’t already tell :^)

still a high price point for what is essentially a fancy filter pedal, but I like the openness and it might be a starting pallette for future explorations

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Mine is also a Lamond, though I wonder if it was an early one or Ross didn’t wire it up as the install is not great - the board is stuck on with foam pads instead of proper spacers…

Thanks, that would be handy if easy.

The case is currently empty, so yes, it’s easy.

Curious to know what peoples’ experiences with speaker modules have been. I’m thinking of putting one in a small case for a project I want to do but I’m not really sure how loud I can expect a eurorack speaker to be. The only ones I’d be able to fit in my case are Ladik’s S-510 (which I’m leaning towards) or Animodule’s TrAniModule. Anyone here tried those?

I have no direct experience with it but as much as I like Ladik kit this is a fairly basic direct radiating/infinite baffle speaker so you’ll get much less low end from it than you would from a similarly sized hifi speaker, especially if you have air gaps in your case so that sound from the back of the driver leaks to the front.

Edit:. Imagine having modules that were just reflex ports to make your whole case a rear chamber…

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Passive attenuation- how much does it reduce signal quality if at all?

I’m trying to reduce the amplitude of various modulation sources like Batumi and was thinking of getting something like the 2hp Trim.

Any reason to prefer a powered module for this?

Thanks

Passive attenuation is perfectly fine in my experience, though I’ve only used it for modulation sources and not for audio. I used a passive WMD attenuator with Batumi for a long time wo/ any issue.

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I’ve not noticed any reduction in audio signal quality with passive attenuation. I’m not very hi-fi oriented though.

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I haven’t noticed anything odd from passively attenuating audio, either with a 2hp Trim, RYO Airtenuator or the fixed resistor attenuator I cobbled together without solder :smiley:

But the Boredbrain Splix (passive crossfader/panner) is a little weird – it sounds like a touch of ring modulation between signals is happening.

So I’ve been planning where to go with my 6U 84hp rack, was wondering what others think. Any suggestion is welcome :slight_smile: There are probably some logical changes and/or missing things.

What I’m trying to do is have drums and ± 4 voices in there, I know it’ll be tight and it’ll be minimal still but it feels doable. Then sequence using some planned/structured stuff using Kria and combine that with some (semi) random stuff, currently mainly from Ornament and Crime, both for pitch and gates. These gates get combined via the OR module.
I have been considering grayscale’s permutation as well, mainly for pitch randomization.

Nice case! Very compact, yet powerful. Some ideas/experiences to share:

  • I needed easy access to my sequencers for live manual manipulation. In my 7u intellijel case I have them on the bottom row on the left and right side (Stillson Hammer + Varigate right, Pressure Points left).
  • I love my DivKid mutes for live control of cv and gate streams.
  • You have quite some modules that have the jacks on the bottom part of the module. Try putting them on the top row together, as this might give you easy access to the knobs.
  • A lay-out on Modulargrid is a great start, real life use of a system is VERY different. So don’t overthink too much. Experiment in real life!
  • Use Knurlies to be able to easily swap until it works for you.
  • A very personal note: I only use white patch cables (Erica Synths + a few Black Market Modular ones). Apart from the pleasing esthetics this has 2 more important advantages: 1. I am forced to memorize how a patch works as there is no visual/color coded feedback from the patch cables. 2. Multicolored patches give me headaches. :wink: Since I switched to ‘all white’ I began to ‘see’ my patch as a cloud of white cables that I can easily reach through to get to a knob, slider, etc. Somehow for me one color is far less distracting than multicolor.
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Thoughts on buying Sputnik Modular in 2019? Am thinking of getting a Quad Vcf/Vca but am afraid of the lack of follow up support if anything goes wrong.

I have a lot of thoughts, but first I need to know your goals. Are you performing with this case or is this for studio use? This looks very Mylar Melodies influenced, so I’m guessing live, but I don’t want to assume.

Offhand I can say that so far you’ve got 3 voices and 2 VCA’s and 2 envelope generators. (Unless you’re using O_C for that - but choose your O_C uses carefully! Hemisphere is a must in a small case.)

You’ve got too many buffered mults. Why do you have two? Why do you need any? Use an external passive mult unless you really need to. If you’re tryng to do 4 voices and drums in that small of a case, you will have to make some pretty big sacrifices.

MSCL is probably overkill for a largely mono case. If you have your heart set on a compressor, get Autodyne instead and save yourself some money.

Sent you a message with some photos. I can share them more widely if others are interested.

I cannot vouch for the module, but I’m not sure there’s anything else like it, certainly not at that price point. I suppose the unobtainable QMMG? As far as I can tell, Sputnik no longer exists as a functioning company; if so, you’d have to seek third party repair services.

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I really liked the sound of the Sputnik Quad VCF/VCA when I had it – the vactrols in mine were exactly like I like them (slow but not too slow) and the mixing capability was pretty useful.

On the downside; AC coupled, the VCA mode is steeply exponential (not an impression I got with LPG or VCF modes), and had more tendency to leak sound through at 0V than other LPGs I’ve used. But it was worth it for the sound. (The only reason I let go of it was to make room for Natural Gate. :smiley: )

I’m sure there are people who can repair them if necessary but wouldn’t expect any service from the now defunct Sputnik themselves.

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Thanks for the feedback! Very useful! :slight_smile:

Some very good points here! You’ve especially hit the nail on the head with the jack positions.

My initial goal was to have only sound related modules with jacks on the bottom on the top row and control and modulation modules with jacks on the top on the bottom row.
I made this choice both for easy patching (jack positions close to each other) and for making sure the controls are easily accessible. Whilst finding modules with the jacks at the bottom is relatively easy it’s proven a lot harder to find modules with the jacks at the top :frowning_face: so I’ve had to compromise on that initial idea/goal.
I’d still like to work towards this so I’m going to flip my ornament and crime and it I guess it’s kind of inevitable I’ll be making some modules of my own in the future with jacks on top :slight_smile:

Regarding access to important modules like sequencers and mutes: Kria/the grid gives me good access to the main sequencer and easy muting of them as well. The Euclidean circles expansion has mutes as well so I think I’m relatively OK there, although some central mutes might be easier. As you mentioned it’s also about how it feels and works in real life. I’ll just have to try how it works with this combo I guess :slight_smile:

It does seems like a good idea to move the euclidean circles to one of the sides.
Initially I had the drum modules on the top left but that didn’t leave me enough room for the other voices I wanted. I think I’ll just fall back to using a tiptop BD808 or the still to be released erica synths drums2 which should give me enough space to move the drum modules back to the top left, than I can move the euclidean circles + expansion to the bottom left.

I totally recognize this, so thanks for bringing it up! I already use a similar approach, just with twice as many colors :wink: White for audio, black for control/CV. It gives me a slightly easier overview than all the same colors and is still simple/minimal enough to not kill me with all the colors :stuck_out_tongue:

Bit of a tangent, but I’m using erica synths cables as well and the last 30cm black ones I got are very stiff and kink easily unlike the older ones I have. How are yours?

Yeah I wanted to write you about your thoughts on it as I saw you’ve had them before. If they were sold only to make way for Natural Gate, I guess they couldn’t be too bad :stuck_out_tongue:
And I won’t worry about them being AC coupled, I will use them mainly for audio - toying between this or 2 x optomix. Guess my leaning very much towards the Sputnik atm.