#1506

AI Synthesis, another good company to keep in the mix. A bit of easy and well-supported DIY or affordably priced assembled modules depending on your preference. A new quad vca that might be a good quadratt alternative (although not 1u) and a characterful filter you might like (based on the ms-20). And I’ll always recommend a matrix mixer—it expands horizons and wrings the most out of small systems like nothing else!

Also! If you end up with something with 1u space, or generally want some good weird modulation or other tasty sounds, check out nonlinearcircuits. would highly recommend at least a 1u tile of sloths in any case. Also has DIY or assembled options :slight_smile: And some great sounding filters, although his demos can be a bit… chaotic :stuck_out_tongue: This is where I’d go for a budget-friendly start.

Pairing stuff with the Salmple and building a small system around it seems like a lot of fun to me, but remember modular isn’t about modules it’s about modulation that’s its unique offering/potential. I’d start with the moog and then add the euro, slowly. leave room for the unknown, there is a lot of exploring to be done.

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#1507

I added the SubH to the Mthr32 and DFAM in a 3 tier rack recently and I have to say, if I was you, i would buy the moog semi modular trio and get to know those first, there is a huge amount you can do with them together (no sampling though obvs) and then once you know what you are missing from that set up you can expand into the full eurorack modular experience, exciting to be heading into this whatever you decide though!

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#1508

For a cheap and excellent filter, I highly recommend the Doepfer a-106-5 SEM VCF. It’s really, really good. It doesn’t self oscillate, so if you’re looking for a sine wave generator you’ll need to look elsewhere, but for standard filter duties it’s one of my favorites. I use it with a Phonogene regularly so I can confirm that sounds great with samples.

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#1509

I was gonna say this same thing. Love this filter. Drives nicely with the input turned up. You can probably find one very cheap used, too. Will echo above sentiment that if you’re considering Behringer take a look at doepfer. Or even if you weren’t on a budget! :wink:

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#1510

Intellijel 1U format is slightly shorter between the rails than PulpLogic, so technically you could make (or have made*) a custom panel to adapt a Quadratt to the larger size. (Can’t do the reverse, the PCBs are too large.)

(* I have too many projects-in-progress… but… I might be persuadable to join an effort to design/fab an adapter panel. But I understand Intelljiel stuff has been backordered all summer, though, so it’s sort of moot at the moment.)

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#1511

also I encourage you to consider what you intend to do with The Squid and of course you are welcome to peruse and chat in the ALM Busy Circuits Squid Salmple Thread

there are of course many fine companions to The Squid and while it is totally serviceable as a drum sampler to pair with a sequencer there is much much more available for it to do, even/especially in a small case. it is a sizeable module (and odd hp) so it’s going to be the center of that lil case.

also second the above recs for nonlinearcircuits 1u (the wee splosh difference/rectifier tile!), a VCA, and a good look at the ALM Coupe System as it contains a good articulation of how The Squid fits in a smaller system.

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#1512

Totally agree with you, Doepfer is great stuff and I should have thought about it in the first place

#1513

Insightful support @renegog, thank you. I really liked the idea of having a sampler and a set of modules good for the sampler itself, but also for exploration. As you said, it’s about that modulation :smiley: The idea was to have some sort of versatile modules that could be useful both for the sampler and external gear, like the Moog and future modules. I won’t have enough effects, filters, etc to start with. Not even an oscillator. But I def plan to add it! Then there is the drums or synth issue. Which direction? It’s though I know. I guess first I have to raise the budget haha. I hope I am not getting ahead of myself. After taking into consideration all the community hints, I came up with this. Let me know if this can be a really basic setup I can build upon, and once more thank you for the support.

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@kveye and @oot, do you think this is more realistic to get started? Now there is the utility king (Maths), and actual filter, dual ADSR, delay & verb, VCA, mixer, and line out.
Still planning to use the Beatstep Pro. Thank you!

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#1514

I’d change delay and verb to micro Clouds. Preferably typhoon one.
And I’d change the filter to new MI ripples. It will give you not only low pass.

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#1515

Output module is not necessary. But my bigger question is: Why sample in euro? I don’t see the advantage over sampling in iOS, and it’s ridiculously expensive.

#1516

tbh effects can really wait (I have no take on the 2hp Verb and there are plenty of great outboard reverbs). I think we’ve established there is a range of affordable, tasty and reasonably sized filters. I don’t know what you are looking to the Doepfer trigger delay for in this sketch, and personally am not keen on trad ADSR in eurorack. put MI Stages in for those instead and you will have plenty to keep you busy.

you can easily use ch 5/6 and 7/8 of Squid to do VCO duties (obvs the moogs as well, tho i’m not familiar with those). I’m not gonna argue “why sample in eurorack” as I think Squid is a great module that works for eurorack. yeah if you want to do trad sampling, maybe look elsewhere but that’s your call. you can Salmple from the Moogs and just let things cook.

personally I like an output module.

Salmple means you can just do both.

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#1517

I really wouldn’t rely on Clouds for reverb, and I say that as a fan of Clouds :slight_smile:

From demos it seems like 2hp Verb isn’t bad, but you might be better off with Happy Nerding FX Aid or pedals (or software, if you’re using a computer).

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#1518

You don’t have to take my advice about the a-106-5, but I think it’s good to go with a multimode filter to start vs. just the lowpass on the a-120, especially since you already have a ladder filter with the Subharmonicon.

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#1519

Anyone know what’s going on with Modular Addict? They goofed on my order and haven’t responded to the support ticket I filed Monday.

#1520

I got some cables shipped from them a couple of weeks back which arrived without issue, so I can say that they were at least operational then. My guess is that they are working at reduced capacity. My approach with shipping/order problems during the lockdown has been to try and message them via all available means (reply to shipping email, email contact on website, use website “contact us” form, try calling). My logic is that they may not be monitoring all the usual channels in a timely manner and one may capture their attention.

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#1521

Yeah I hate to resort to the “shotgun” approach but here we are. It’s silly to kick up a fuss over a $8 PCB but it’s holding up my last DIY project. Thanks.

#1522

Can’t do much without a PCB!

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#1523

well… you could say the same about synthesis in euro.

and the stock euro answers apply to sampling too - i use the sts extensively in my setup. cv allows you to do things - in real time - that would be unwieldy to do by hand in, say, ableton. using cv to change samples or alter their direction and length, not to mention speed and location within a large sample… there’s a lot of potential for the same hands-on experimentation and happy accidentalism that people like so much about euro with oscillators.

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#1524

You were right @chalkwalk - I just replied to my order confirmation email (which I hadn’t though to do) and they replied almost immediately.

#1525

Hi everyone! I gave it some thoughts based on all your useful suggestions, and decide to drop the Salmple project for now. Instead, I’ve decided to start with 2/3 of the Moog toys and use the eurorack as an extension of it, in order to increase modulation capabilities. Later, once I’ve got a good hang of what I already have, I can start to expand the rack and add Salmple eventually.
What do you think about something like that?

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I would have still one of the best and most versatile utilities (Maths), audio/cv multiplier, frequency divider, waveshaper, super effects, and super VCA (quad), mini mixer with panning, and outs.
I feel this could drastically empower the Moog(s). Notably missing filters, VCO, and LFO, but I was planning to use the ones on the synths (to start with).

Please let me know your thoughts. My inexperience is my limit. For example, I’ve added the Doepfer mixer and Intellijel OUTs, but if you can think of a module that does both better (around the same price) please let me know. Or if you see a module that won’t bring significant changes, but can wait. Any suggestion is welcome. I’d just like to keep it within the $1300 budget for euro

Once again thank you ALL. Every suggestion played an important role in my decisions, and I feel that with your help I am getting closer and closer to what is right for me :smiley:

P.S.: can’t wait to get a bunch of answers!

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