i was presupposing that the answer i would get is “dont limit yourself to a beginner case”. but yeah i agree. im already feeling the need to kind of expand because im selling modules that id like to keep just to make space for others. and i really do think to accomplish anything rhythmic, while maintaining the audio processing machine that i initially wanted, i would realistically need at least 6u. at least for what makes building generative polyrhythms exciting to me, and building sounds from fundamentals. things like sequential switches, clock dividers/mults, logic modules, lfos to blend together for sequences, attenuverters, mults, vcas/mixers. i thought i would be set with some all-in-one tools like the o_C. and i do love that module, but even with hemispheres as an option, it would be much more useful if i had like 4 of them in my setup. because the apps i really like (quadraturia, qauntermain, copiermaschine, low rents, piqued, dialectic ping pong) can only run one at a time, which leaves the need for an additional quad lfo source or quad eg, or quantizer, or sequencer, or all of those but one

i do agree, that i like this setup for now because it forces me to eliminate things i may not need. but overall, i think the point of modular is kind of lost on an 84hp limit. you cant really build anything beyond a behringer semimodular without a little more space. once you get 1 vco, one sequencer, one eg, one filter, one vca, and maybe an effect, you’re already out of space. and a lot of the really cool “eurorack-only” devices, which is what drove me to eurorack in the first place, are 20+hp. for instance, i just had to sell the dispersion delay i just got because i only had like 10 hp left, and thats a very dope, but very limited tool. then i wanted to get the moon phase sequential filter, but that’s almost the same size. and i already have a filter that’s 2hp.it would have added functionality, and i think a filter with more advanced features would be an incredibly powerful sound sculpting tool. but it wouldn’t leave me with much space. and i definitely couldn’t keep that and the nlc module

your statement is true for anything gear related, or even daw related (where i’ve gone way overboard and may contribute to this idea that i need access to everything imaginable to avoid limiting my sound design capabilities). but when i think of what would help add to my workflow, its usually a groovebox, some crazy expensive creative tool with newer technology that i dont have access to, or the middle ground, a version or component of that creative tool in a slightly more affordable eurorack format. and if i’m going to make my modular setup anything beyond a scattered set of random audio devices and into something cohesive or something that stands on its own, i may need more space. like if i wanted to make my own groovebox. i find that when i had rings and rene, i didnt really make a sequence on rene with rings, then build on that with my other gear. it didnt really make sense. i could just sample it or use something lse i already have to get those sounds. if i want to really build something unique that works for me, it’s going to be hard with limited space. someone said in another thread, something like “if we wanted straight forward solutions to music making, we wouldn’t be here”

i understand the point though, and that is also how im viewing it for now. i find clarity and presumptive statements to be useful in weeding out the more obvious replies. not being a jerk here, just saying that being more clear usually leads to more clear and helpful responses

edit: ( i guess i should clarify that im waiting for the telharmonic and the modules to the right of it in that modulargrid rack to arrive, so i dont have those yet. just recently sold the other modules to make room)

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Risking to say the unpopular, but I’d advise to get an intellijel or tiptop 6u. And keep the nifty case.
I personally find the duo of “synth case + control/processing case” to be really working for me. And I found that stashing away some modules I don’t use right now to be the best solution. I get bored of every module or the whole system sometimes. And I just swap one of two modules and it feels almost like new system :slight_smile:

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thats a really good idea. i’ve been trying not to spend a bunch of money on gear so at the moment im only using money i get from selling other gear. but i keep thinking about how much i’m going to have to spend on a midi to cv module, power supply, audio out module, and case if i abandon the niftycase. although the michigan synthworks $50 thing seems like it might work for usb midi. the only problem with keeping the niftycase would be that it’s so god damn ugly. but it is practical. i do think something like the tip top would be good.

i kind of like this too

or do what you said, keep the niftycase so i dont have to get a midi to cv module, or an audio out module, and supplement with this baby

i wouldnt really know how to set them up though. i have trouble with the niftycase as it is. if i leave it standing, it moves around way too much, so all patching and most things i do that involve touching anything in the case, requires two hands so it doesnt fall over. laying it flat takes up space, might prop it up with those little laptop feet and see how that goes. i kind of like the 6u cases, they look nice and are efficient with space and playability. or at least thats how it seems to me

good advice though, thank you

i’m sure there are lots of people here who use euro to process a live instrument… what do y’all like to use to process resonant metals?

i’m considering a big shift in my modular to do just this, using a vibraphone. i tend to love minimal/glitchy sounds. where should i start looking?

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If glitchy loop/buffer mangling is on your mind, you can do much worse than a Reflex LiveLoop. A huge stereo buffer, multiple loop modes, loop-pedal trigger support (if I remember correctly), elaborate CV and especially MIDI control, three-band EQ, save states with the optional expansion PCB… SDS Digital in general is fantastic.

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i wonder about things like this too. maybe a phaser. the doepfer 12 stage vactrol phaser looks like a really fun option for audio processing. warps is really good, as mentioned above. maybe the most immediately satisfying hardware effect i’ve ever used. awesome for blending two sources. the qubit data bender looks very glitchy and exciting

Linear power supplies are larger so they don’t work in shallow cases. As people wanted more portable (vs. studio) cases manufacturers had to start using switching supplies. Switching supplies can also be used in countries with different voltage standards which means the same case/power supply can be used in North American as well as in Europe, Asia, etc. Doepfer used to have to make two versions of their cases that used linear supplies, one for 110v and one for 220v.

I have two cases that both use a Doepfer PSU2 which is a linear supply; they’re great, very low noise, but they don’t power modules that use the 5v rail. They also give off a lot more heat than my cases with switching supplies which is fine in the winter but not so great in the summer!

Edit: There are probably a bunch of other reasons most manufacturers use switching supplies vs. linear ones, I’m just listing the ones I know about.

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Anyone have tips for using the Korg SQ-1 to sequence non-melodic parameters?

Is it helpful to set the cv range to the highest rate, if I remember correctly it’s 8v?

Thanks!

I guess I just wanted to share this.

I have an 0-coast, 0-ctrl and a keystep 37 (that I don’t really like using yet, need to spend time with the manual which bums me out)

I have the maths and qpas already and I’m having a blast. Last night I had Maths into qpas making sounds that ripped through the space/time continuum. I started laughing out loud.

I’m working my way towards the rest of the modules, anyone have any thoughts on my direction? Hope you all are having a good day.

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Those are all very excellent modules.

I’m loving the qpas, thanks for the encouragement away from xpan. I’m getting plenty of fun panning but also getting clay pots and glass symphonies

Those are all great modules and all work great together alongside the 0-coast and 0-ctrl.

Personally, in a skiff such as this I like to have my output module (so HPO in this case) positioned on the far right side of the case but this is totally a different strokes for different folks sort of comment :smile:

It’s in a doepfer a-100 case, so it’s set in enough that I have to invert and pinch my fingers to turn the volume up or down if it’s positioned all the way to the right.

Rookie case move I reckon. Moving it on the other side of the maths means I can reach the knob with less shoulder/wrist gymnastics

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Hi all, new to the forum and I’m looking for suggestions.
I have a octatack that I’m planning to sequence my system with but I would also like to take advantage of some of the crazy euro sequencers that I’ve seen.

Any idea on sequencers or randomness modules that would ad some more playability and happy accidents paired with a octatrack?

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IF money is no object look at Five12’s vector sequencer.

!!! Thnx for the reply!
That thing looks crazy cool!

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MI Marbles has got to be worth a look I think

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Yea so that was the first thing I was thinking, maybe sequencer is the wrong word for what I’m looking for. Not sure what categorie marbles falls under.

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its definitely on the random side of the tracks and can also sequence, its a versatile package!

I recently got a Qu-Bit Bloom and have ‘clicked’ with it way better than I did with Marbles.

That’s not to diss Marbles in any way - Emilie’s designs are breathtaking in their functionality, as well as beautiful to look at - but it just wasn’t for me.

Bloom, on the other hand…! :sunglasses:

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