Frustratingly, I don’t know what the final answer is but I got it to work. I got it to a point where it would at least error out later in the file and then kept trying at that setting repeatedly. Third time, with no settings changes, did it. :man_shrugging:

I often use two bands from Make Noise FXDf and a crossfader with noise + S&H controlling the fade between the bands in the feedback path of a delay, but the modulating a filter’s frequency with noise is a great idea.

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How do you like the fx aid? I’ve got reverb and delay covered, but the other stuff seems interesting.

FX Aid is quite good. Lots of value for the money. A little bit cramped feeling even with the XL version, but I changed the knob caps for smaller ones (Intellijel “small tall” style from Thonk) and that helped.

I just got it! So the jury’s out. But many like @Starthief seem to enjoy it, and they’ve seen a lot of modules.

It joins a Lyra FX and Mimeophon in my rack which are both nice but aren’t an “end of chain reverb” like the FX Aid might be. I’m a sucker for big, washy, spacey reverb so I have high hopes.

One area where I think FX Aid shines is short delays with high feedback, resonating metallically. It seems to be able to do it well without blowing up.

Also some nice lush reverbs, and fun things with frequency shifting.

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Sad news. Wowa Cwejman has died.

I can jump in a little here. I previously had a delay no more and it was fun though I sold it to replace it with the delay no more 3. They are both definitely geared toward noisy feedback sound generation rather than sort of an experimental delay. Meaning the crunchiness is exploited in a way that is not just the pleasing (to some, me included) lo-fi delay aspects of the chip but also ugly artifacts and garbage stuff. I haven’t had the delay no more 3 for long but I find myself really working my filters with it in the feedback path and even after.

On the delay no more 3 the 4th row of knobs is similar to the cross feedback knobs on the first incarnation in that (I think!) they control the feedback amount from the subsequent delay line back to the first, so 2 back 1, 3 to 2, and 3 back to 1. I truly haven’t had the time to really figure out how to use this effectively and part of me wishes these were wet/dry mix knobs as you mentioned but admittedly this might just be because most of my time with it so far has been trying to wrestle it into a regular multitap delay and making sure my build is fully functional :sweat_smile: It is a monster though.

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I have a question about Gate Delays. I have never used one and I am thinking to get one to offset timing and start events offset from initial bang. Which modules are best for doing this?

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Malekko’s Quad Gate Delay may be the coolest. It has some really nifty creative features.

Doepfer’s A-162 dual trigger delay module is inexpensive, popular, and easily modded. I had one for a while because it fires a very hot 10v trigger, ideal for exciting resonant filters and such.

One important difference is that the Malekko is digital and I think it can therefore accurately reproduce the input gate length after the delay, whereas the A-162 is analog, triggered, and generates its own arbitrary-length trigger/gate (knob) at the end of the delay.

Divkid video on the Malekko

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Not in production anymore but very useful if you find one in secondhand : SSF Propagate !

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I agree with this 100% My biggest struggle with it is just knowing what I’m doing, to be honest. It’s a bit frustrating to have to go to my computer to see which effects I loaded into which slots, and then it’s even harder to actually see the instructions for that effect. In a perfect world, there’d be a bit more of a manual for the effects, and some way to record what’s where.

I know I can just do those things myself, but this is just my wishful thinking.

The markings on XL’s panel help a little with the instructions since the functions for the knobs are quasi-standardized. Perhaps obvious, but I also find it helpful to fill banks by category. While I may not remember that magneto is in bank 2, effect 3, I have no problem recalling that bank 2 is for delays (and I can toggle through to find the one I want based on sound).

If you fire up the “standalone editor”, you can get a nicely formatted PDF reference for your current bank from the File drop-down.

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Also, remember that envelope generators with end-of-cycle/rise/fall can be used as cv-able trigger/gate delays (e.g. Maths, Quadra(x), Contour 1, etc). Though they will not preserve the original gate length.

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I’ve been using the After Later Audio G&T module for trigger delays and gate to trigger conversion (and trigger to gate). It’s great and comes in both 3u and 1u. I had the 3u version but just replaced it with the 1u version so I can put it in my intellijel 1u row.

Ladik also has a couple of great options, one of which is CVable. Hemispheres for O_C has implemented one of Ladik’s gate delays so that’s another good option if you don’t think you’ll use it in every patch.

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Does anyone have and love the endorphines milky way. It looks like exactly what I want to fill out the “multi fx” section of my rack- small, decent variety, enough control, and I’ve liked how it sounds in videos I’ve seen. Stuff like Erica Synths black DSP is a bit too big, but I’m also looking at something like the dual FX. I remember hearing that Milky way has had some problems with noise. Have those problems been resolved, or are there still things to look out for?

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So is the Delay No More 3 always fully wet? I’d say that seems like a weird choice but it’s an NLC module so weird choices are the name of the game (and a major part of the charm).

I’m definitely more interested in crazy drones rather than normal delays (I have a Chronoblob 2 already) but maybe the standard delay no more would be more my speed.

I love my fx aid. The knobs are fairly compact, but since they turn with a bit more resistance it still feels like a decent amount of resolution. The FX aid sounds very very good. I mostly use it for reverbs and all the room, halls, greyholes, spring, etc sound nice to my ears.

checked them all out, the first try will be the G&T as it will fit in the 1u of my case.
thanks very much to all.

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