That’s kind of my thinking too. I’m getting Planar tomorrow and I envision it being used as a good “mixer” for different waves from CS-L or for panning but also kind of feel like I need VCA’s to send envelopes to for more percussive things. Just wasn’t sure if I could get by with Cold Mac instead since it has so much more to offer than just that.

Do you think I may be better served getting a 1u VCA and Duatt from Intellijel instead of the Quadratt and then getting CM?

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id still rec getting 2x of the 1u VCAs (i’m not counting yr hp so idk how that affects duatt).

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I think I would only be able to do 2 vcas if I dropped the Duatt. So probably best to stick with Tangle for now.

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Tangle Quartet would definitely be a good choice in that rack. Cold Mac is nice for utilities and processing CV but it doesn’t replace a VCA. You’ll have a lot more opportunities to inject subtlety into your patches when you’ve got CV modulating CV.

The 1u VCAs are nice ways to fill out a 1u space but I would personally want a Duatt next to them to have attenuation on my control signals. Tangle Quartet saves that extra patching with normalizations.

If you’re trying to gain extra space on the 1U row, I think you can wire the MixUp directly to the jacks on your case, though it won’t be a balanced signal anymore.

Hi guys,

Can you help finish my eurorack system?
Only waiting to put in the last one or two modules

Maybe a bit more tone control? One filter is pretty skimpy for that many voices. I’d recommend something like 3 Sisters for its ability to handle three inputs; you have just enough effects that using it as a crossover would be fun, too. Alternatively, make some space for the R*S Serge Resonant EQ, or Mutable Shelves.

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Hey everybody, I’m thinking of buying a 6hp VCO to complement my Plaits, I’m hesitating between Godspeed, Ts-L and MCO, which one would you recommend? Thanks!

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I honestly think you can get rid of a lot of that Doepfer stuff and replace it with something like Stages for your LFO’s and envelopes. Keep Maths of course. I have both Stages and Maths and its a great combo. And four VCA’s is plenty to start with that Intellijel, I’d get rid of those Doepfer VCA’s. You only have two VCO’s and I don’t think you really need more VCA’s or Envelopes than that to compliment those voices, unless you wanted some Low Pass Gates for a different flavor. That Doepfer random module is not the greatest, I owned one, I have a 2hp Rnd and I find it very useful esp for the space. Also, they just reissued the Qu-Bit Nano Rand which looks great, covers even more ground for a really small package.

You definitely convinced me with the 3 sisters

Pretty interesting comment thanks. I don’t know stages but I will definitely have a look. About VCAs, I basically have 4 voices that could become 6, and they say you can never have too many VCAs for modulation purposes. I definitely need the white noise from the random module, and if there was another module of the same size with white noise included I would consider that. I think that eventually I will get rid of some other of my Doepfer stuff if I find good compromises, but right now I am still learning and the doepfer basic system is good for that. Another thing is, the modules being pretty limited they really push you to come up with ideas.

I need the 2 envelopes as I am controlling the 2 VCOs via beatstep sequencers. The other voices I want to control with VCAs are the Nebulae, white noise, maths occasionally and three sisters sine waves, then disting has a VCO as well, so I was actually thinking I don’t have enough VCAs in some scenarios, and I really need them if I want to make generative music

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Nanorand has white noise

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I have both Stages and Maths and its a great combo.

Do you use them separately simply as two great modules or as a kinda aggregate?

What do you think of the doepfer wasp filter (by the way I already have 2 filters plus some more in the disting)

There’s crossover for sure between Maths and Stages but usually I use them in tandem. It usually end up using the Maths for envelope type duties and then often Stages I’ll use for a smaller sequencer, static voltage source, sample and hold, lfo or even vco. The more I use Stages the more stuff I find it can do. It’s pretty nuts, same with Maths of course, but each has a very unique take on its methodology. I also do like Stages envelopes as they can get really fast and snappy, even quicker than Maths. But in general I look at them in tandem. At this point I couldn’t imagine not having both in my setup.

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Haven’t used it but my impression is that it has a very unique and fun sound for the price. It also has a reputation for burning out a chip.

I see, I just went over to Muff Wiggler and it seems it did happen to someone to burn the chip, but they say it’s an easy and quick fix

While I agree that this rack could definitely be optimized - I think getting rid of all of the Doepfer stuff for a bunch of digital multifunctional modules would totally change the character of this modular. You’re basically saying “buy a different synth.” I also disagree that the Doepfer noise/random isn’t great - it’s a building block that needs to be paired with a sample and hold and a slew, which this rack has.

I guess I’m saying don’t throw the baby out with the bath water!

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I’ve had this twice too and it’s a super easy plug and play fix

Agree 100% and wouldn’t change a thing right now, I am just considering the last one or two modules in the synth…his reply was pretty helpful anyway as it gave me some interesting ideas

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