Cool, the new 1/8" version of banana cables Buchla and TipTop are working for so long?

(Let’s hope you’ll find the tip in a corner on the floor.)

4 Likes

I’m unsure about the power limitations for my palette. Would I be ok replacing the passive mults on the right hand side with a DivKid Mults using a daisy chain power ribbon? I’ve current got all the power sockets on the board filled.

1 Like

Hello. What’s that 1U in the upper left? Is it a send-return?

You should be okay. I’ve been using a daisy chain ribbon too. I think as long as the modules you use with it aren’t too power-intensive, you should be fine. Mutes is, if I remember right, somewhere between like 50-150ma, right?

2 Likes

recreate this on ModulerGrid and it’ll tell you the power needs of all those modules - then you can refer to the docs on the Palette for what it supplies:
" * High spec 40 Watt power supply capable of powering up to 12 modules with +12 V output at 1200 mA, -12 V output at 1200 mA and +5 V output at 500 mA."

4 Likes

It’s a Mosiac line in. I just scraped off the graphics, not really my taste.

5 Likes

Gotcha. I have that urge a lot.

2 Likes

I’m thinking about trying a Vermona Melocdicer. I like that it’s generative but you pick the exact notes. I’m curious if others have one or experience with one. I’m also wondering about “friends” for it to produce related sequences. I was thinking something like the AJH precision adder and/or maybe a track & hold.

I’ve got the meloDICER and am quite in love with it. I’ve used a precision added on the cv output to mess with it, but also really enjoy running various clocked lfos into the cv ins to do some really amazing stuff. I’m forgetting the specifics but even just experimenting I have such a blast.
Plus, it’s made to be “playable”, so simply messing with the legato, rests, and note/gate timing knobs give me so many choices.
The one word of caution which is probably already self-evident to you is that it’s just one single “track” so everything on it controls everything coming out of it, if that makes sense. But that’s the main reason I love it so much. Its singleness of purpose means I get lost in it.
It’s the only module I’ve purchased twice… my first one was broken and I sent it back for a refund, but even broken I had such a blast with it.
EDIT: Marbles, clocked or not, is a fantastic friend for it. But then Marbles is a fantastic friend with basically everything.

4 Likes

Thank you! I meant to post in Eurorack but I suppose there’s a chance the “ordering” might come into play :slight_smile:

Do you ever try and derive a 2nd sequencer from the output of the first? That’s what I was thinking with the S&H or Adder.

1 Like

Ooh! No I haven’t, but need to try now! Going to connect it to my Metropolix and see what happens.

1 Like

I hope this whole post doesn’t come across as too harsh, but it’s important to point out a few reasons that you should absolutely not try this:

  1. The TPS80W needs a DC PSU:
  2. The connector you’ve linked will simply pass through the AC wires from your 110-240V power supply. It’s the kind of work that legally requires a licensed electrician, or illegally requires some serious foolhardiness:
  3. To turn that AC into DC, the cheapest and safest option by far would be… a power brick. There are many other options that I wouldn’t try tackling without more electronics knowledge than I have, since you’d essentially be engineering a new PSU.

My first PSU had some home surgery from a prior owner to allow an AC cord to run into the case directly, to avoid a brick being involved. It blew up and tripped my apartment’s power, and in retrospect I’m lucky that neither my modules nor my life were affected. AC power is no joke. The people giving stern warnings about it are doing so for your safety. I didn’t understand that until after it was important!

The inability of a power brick to switch off doesn’t matter too much if the thing it is plugged into is not drawing any power. A live 18V tip might give you a zap, a live 240V wire might kill you.

I switch off power bricks that are plugged in when the equipment isn’t powered by using a power board with individually switched sockets. An inline switch would do the same thing electrically - I haven’t used or tested that product and have no affiliation with that store, but that’s what I would start researching if that was a concern.

I wouldn’t say that external bricks are on the way out, they are used in many products for aforementioned reasons.

Just quickly to touch on the internal PSU point: PSUs get hot because they don’t convert with 100% efficiency and some of the energy is lost as heat. Travel cases - presuming this is an Intellijel case, but the same principles apply to others - already compromise on heat due to small size and a lack of ventilation. Heat will cause issues, and heat buildup around the PSU brick itself will affect its performance. From the datasheet of the brick Intellijel recommend for the TPS80W:

Or: if the temperature around the unit exceeds 40°C (104°F), its performance will decrease, reaching a level of 80% at 50°C (122°F), and lower beyond that. Also note the temperature reports on the last page here: the unit itself goes up to >55°C when running at 100% load for an hour, while in a 20°C room. The inside of your case is unlikely to be under 20°C!


Anyhow, once again, I hope this didn’t come across as too harsh, but if I were in your shoes I’d either adapt the power entry to 1U or drill holes in the case for the bits. Intellijel might have a mounting template, if you email them.

(P.S. mods, please feel free to delete/edit/move to the PSU topic/remove this note as you see fit depending on whether it fits here!)

21 Likes

I appreciate this immensely. Very informative power overview. It’s not my domain at all. I’ll stick with the brick!

4 Likes

Glad to hear it! My path to making bleepy bloops involved a lot of haphazard learning about what electricity is or does, and the most important thing I’ve learned that a thorough explanation is a lot more helpful than a “no” for both the person asking and anybody lurking who was curious but didn’t ask. (The second most important thing I’ve learned is to immediately distrust the sense that I understand any of this, so YMMV!)

2 Likes

Hey y’all. I made a bot (in my image) to talk about synths with. It’s awkward and frustrating, but we have plans to make a Shared System patch together…

It suggested I pair Maths with Strega, which I’ll admit, I’ve never done. I’ll give it a whirl on Wednesday at synth club.

Modular Synth AI chat

3 Likes

Anyone have any suggestions for a module that does stereo delay and verb to replace Magneto? I love the Magneto, but it is so big I was thinking about finding something smaller to clear up som HP for more modulation in my live rack.

1 Like

Mimeophon is a great choice IMO.

10 Likes

Plus one to Mimeophon, with the caveat that the verb is not very tweakable (and not at all independently of the delay) so it’s not always the right sound. I personally love it but definitely need to use other verbs at times.

2 Likes

Beads can act as a delay when the grain size is set to infinite, and it has reverb as well. The reverb, like Mimeophone, isn’t very tweakable. It’s pretty much just “how much do you want?”

2 Likes

I traded Magneto for Mimeophon. It’s not quite the same thing: Magneto sounds great, but that’s the sound you get from it. And it feels too big to use subtly. I re-bought Magneto a few months on, and re-sold it. It didn’t seem to make sense in any system under about 500hp, and didn’t justify the space for an effect that I could approximate with Mimeophon or Beads.

Mimeophon, on the other hand, is likely to stay with me even if I sold off most of my Euro. Wild sounds, great ergonomics even when patched, half the +12 power draw and just over half the size, CV over everything except input level and skew, and above all a fun interface to play.

As an example, heres a jam with just Mimeophon sequenced as a Karplus-Strong voice. I’m sending an occasional offset into the Zone CV with a button (Taín) to get it from the smallest zone to the largest so it can loop itself (from about 1:03) with occasional wild pitch shifts and the ability to easily flip and hold the sequence (2:59):

4 Likes