#650

It’s really a bummer that the Ochd is basically permanently sold out. I have begun experimenting with the JF Geode mode, which is wonderfully rhythmic and fun, this would pair well with Disting. That actually feels much more up my alley than the O_c. For now, I didn’t vibe with the O_c’s standard or alternate hemisphere firmware. It was useful, but I find what the Disting offers more straight forward and valuable for this rack. Having more audio playback and/or CV utility sounds very useful indeed.

I might try and find time this weekend to go play with one at my local shop. The Ochd is interesting, but I’ve felt between the TXo and JF’s ability for CV generation, I should be set on LFO’s until I go bigger. I guess I’m not at a huge disadvantage for voices feeing comfortable bringing in the OP-1 and Z, so sacrificing either the JF or a few TXo voices isn’t the worst option.

Now I see why everyone talks about getting a bigger case…

#651

Personally, I wouldn’t get rid of the 1u Noise Tools in your case because I don’t see another noise source in your system. Noise is so useful; for random signals and audio but also to dirty things up a bit (try attenuated noise into the cv input of a filter or pulsewidth of a vco).

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#652

Once I get the TXo, I could use one of those as a noise source though, as well as if I get a Disting. But I guess the Intellijel noise is more valuable at the moment than the Mult? I get a bit limited by my amount of modulation and feel as if the Mult might help to increase that. If it’s just the white noise signal more so than the sample and hold function of that, it might be worth it. Then again, in my beginner state, I might be overvaluing the Mult and can just extend my modulation with stackables?

#654

You can always grab a couple of these:

They’re great for modulation, gates etc.

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#655

I just realized I have a grip of befaco Mult stars. Like, duh… 🤦🏻

I’ve also realized one reason I love Eurorack is because getting everything I need in there feels like the inventory screen of Resident Evil 4. I can’t fit it all, but I can damn well try!

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#656

The only thing you can’t use stackcables for that you would use a (buffered) mult for is copying a v/o signal several times over.

Personally I find that even multing v/o via stackcable doesn’t cause that noticable of an intonation problem if you stack it only once or twice. My intuition tells me this may depend on the octave range you’re working in though.

I’ve never had a mult in my rack and I don’t miss it.

One thing to keep in mind about stackcables is that if you intend to use a lot of them, they add up to a lot of money.

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#657

anyone have some pointers, or maybe some Valhalla-esque reverbs to check out? seems like the ZVERB won’t be the right solution for that…and it might not exist at all except in the Z-DSP.

#658

whaddaya buyin’???

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#659

Not sure if it’s at all what you’re after but I’ve got some great use out of the simple and inexpensive Erica Pico DSP. Of course there are no real modulation possibilities but it’s very handy in a compact setup. The Happy Nerding FX Aid could be worth checking out too. In my other case I’ve got a Knob.Farm Ferry for using a Mercury7 reverb pedal, but that’s external FX gear then.

#660

While I would like more grenades, from what has been suggested here, it appears I’ll be buying a ES Disting! :wink:

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#661

Somewhat similar to @docile_fossil above I’ve been looking for something like Valhalla in a small module as well. Wondering what your take is on the Pico DSP’s verb or Dervish if you’ve ever tried them?

Both of them as well as the Z-DSP are Spin FV-1 based and there are already some different reverbs (and other effects) available, for example on https://mstratman.github.io/fv1-programs/

I have no experience developing reverbs, but maybe someone with more knowledge in that field could come up with something like the Valhalla reverbs?

(sidetrack: This looks pretty nifty as well for someone with no experience with the FV-1 https://github.com/HolyCityAudio/SpinCAD-Designer)

#662

I have a Pico DSP and the reverb is pretty decent. I’d take a look at the Happy Nerding FXaid over the Pico now though.

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#663

Got the idea to bring my 2 Mother 32s into true modular territory. I’m ordering a 60hp euro case to fit on the 3 tier-rack I got. But I am struggling with what direction to take. Ive got two DFAMs in a two tier rack as well.

I’ve had a lot of fun with the Mothers. Their sequencer is pretty limiting in a way. I’d like to bring in more chance elements.

Not a whole lot of space to contend with. I’ll need a small power module in there (suggestion?). And I’d like to steer clear of any Make Noise stuff for this round (as thats all I have up til now).

I’d also like there to be at least a reverb or a delay. Though at the moment I’m leaning towards a Bastl Hendrikson so I can bring some of my tweakier guitar pedals into play. Other than that…I’m all ears.

Thanks!

#664

for power, 4ms row power 30

look into qubit sequencers and mutable instrument marbles for sequencing :slight_smile:

I like a lot of Make noise modules, they would complement a mother32 system quite well (maths, wogglebug, morphagene).

In term of what function to add to this I would suggest: random, envelope/lfos, vca/polarizers, low pass gate.

Overall the usual advice is still true: go slow. Get a power module and the bastl hendrikson (integrating pedals is a great idea :slight_smile: ). Then add one thing at a time and see where it leads you.

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#665

Thanks for the suggestions. Wasn’t trying to diss MakeNoise. I’ve got a Shared System and have played the Mothers with that a lot, and had a lot of fun.

Mainly just trying to see what else is out there, as it’s hard not to feel like a MN fanboy at this point.

I do need to bring my pedals into the fold. There are some good ones and more coming everyday it seems.

#666

In case it’s any inspiration, here’s my favorite layout for my Moog case that I’ve come up with. There’s not many modules, but every one of them is densely packed with features, multiple use cases, and musical serendepity such that I’ll never end up with the same patch or sound twice. From left to right: uZeus power supply (4hp), Monome Crow (2hp), Frap Tools Falistri (18hp), Make Noise Mimeophon (16hp), Qu-Bit Nebulae v2 (20hp). I rely heavily on the sound-on-sound recording and playback features of the Nebulae to create layers in the moment. The Falistri handles oscillator and modulation duties, often at audio rate, often simultaneously. Mimeophon is my catch-all delay, reverb (the halo parameter), filter-of-sorts (the color parameter), and tuned feedback machine. Crow is sort of my 2hp wild card that can be a generative sequencer, source of random, bank of LFOs, USB MIDI to CV converter, or something else depending on what program happens to be running.

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#667

Ah! I thought you meant the only ideas you have to fill that row were Make Noise and you wanted other ideas, not that you actually had a whole MN system :smiley:

Def look into Mutable/Qubits then, different vibe altogether.

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#668

60hp is tiny. But if you want more unpredictable sequences, utility modules combined with the m32 and DFAM sequencers will get you there: mixer, clock divider, precision adder, switch, VCLFO, etc. You may want a quantizer too.

Since you already have multiple sequencers and limited space, I’d start with a A-165-2 and a A-166. This will give you endless fun mixing up your four existing sequencers, not cost too much, and leave space for the other things you want to do.

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#669

I don’t have Pico DSP or Dervish. (Though the Pico is mono > stereo, so is a pretty different beast to Z-DSP out of the gate.) It’s all dsp code, and it mostly has to do with the taste of the developers. Most of the people who really know their stuff are doing so professionally, and I haven’t heard any especially good examples of the open algorithms.

People are fawning over the FX Aid algos, which are also not open - and at this moment, the device is unavailable to buy. Xaoc upcoming Timiszoara will also run open source Spin algos, and will be easier to come by than the Dervish. They say they’re developing their own/working with others as well? I’m hopeful for that one.

One other thing about the Z-DSP Valhalla reverbs is they all have a chorus parameter, which seems to add a lot for me.

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#670

Dervish is great. Really happy with mine. Easy build as well.

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