712

Bastl ABC probably worth a look. You can normalize left to right inputs via jumpers on the back, too, for easy mono to stereo action, or treat each side separately.

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713

Then thereā€™s the Knob.farm Hyrlo thatā€™s just 4hp so you can have 2hp for something else.

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714

3xMIA can be difficult to zero out if youā€™re planning to use it for audio. Great for CV and offsets though. For audio I use Happy Nerdingā€™s 6xMIX.

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715

Do you have one? Iā€™m about to order oneā€¦

716

Ah, thanks for this call out. I totally would have grabbed the tool that is not quite ideal for the job.

Thanks for the Hyrlo & Bastl suggestions as well folks.

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717

I do yes. I ordered their trio a while ago. Happy with them so far

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718

Then you might want to have a look at 6x MIX instead of 3x MIA.

719

I have a Hyrlo and an Ooots, and I like both. Iā€™m still tempted by a Befaco STMIX though.

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720

Hi ! I apologize for the newbie question, I imagine people here must see that kind of questioning quite often. If thatā€™s not too much trouble, I would greatly appreciate any feedback, tips, pointers, ways to optimize space / money on this system (based on the MN shared System), that Iā€™ve been iterating on (and wracking my head over!) for about a month.

Iā€™m looking to build an instrument that allows me to potentially make whole pieces, as well as sound design. Iā€™m specifically hoping to avoid wasting money reselling modules, and to minimize GAS.

Iā€™ve given myself a few design principles :

  • Function and form, but function before form
  • Immediacy and playability over feature depth and precision
  • Minimum to no screens (save for spectro/oscillo)
  • Whatever you do, donā€™t go above 15-18U. The lesser, the better.
  • Iā€™ll not skimp on the right module/case

Regarding the how of it all :
Iā€™m thinking as a target : a Make noise Shared System case (main beast) & 3U 104HP skiff (for extra in-studio stuff & module holder). As a start Iā€™ll fill up the Shared System case, then move on from there.

For context, I own a Blofeld, a Minilogue, Bitwig, an 0-coast and a wonderful Deluge. Any sequencing is therefore likely to come last, but Iā€™m too impressed by the RenĆ© not to want it. My musical style is shifting at the moment, but overall techno/ambient/idm/industrial/noise/concrĆØte.

Thanks in advance !

721

The link seems to be broken. The question though is why not just Shared System?

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722

Fixed the link, should be working now.
Regarding the Shared System, it definitely started out that way, but I didnā€™t feel the Echophon, yet liked the Mimeophon a great deal. Plus, I really wanted Rings + Noise (modal synth) as well as Ears and ES-8 (because Iā€™m still on the computer a great deal, and Bitwig is getting deeper by the year). Thus did I discover the pains of not having enough HP !

723

I personally hate the pots on mini versions of mutable modules, especially rings. Iā€™d strongly advise for original version of rings.

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724

Thatā€™s concerning. Is this issue worth losing a module in the main case (bear in mind Iā€™ll likely stick to it for a long while) ?

725

Rings is a really playable module and those pots for me are ā€œset and forgetā€ as I have big hands. Itā€™s even more pronounced having cables all over the module. It might not be an issue for you, just check it.

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726

Will definitely do, thanks.

727

The minipots thing is a personal preference but you really do notice a difference workflow-wise that isnā€™t immediately obvious when just looking at pictures online.
A minipot requires a positive grip with two fingers and generally has more resistance (yet less precision) than a regular knob, which you only need to nudge to affect.

I want to stress that it is personal preference but they are more different as a user interface than you would expect not having tried them.

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728

That makes a whole lot of sense. Interface is essential to me! Iā€™ll see if I can shift things around.

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729

Looks like Iā€™m gonna have to sacrifice/replace either Erbe or RenĆ© or DPO.

  • DPO Iā€™m bummed about : I originally came to Eurorack because I wanted a Buchla Easel and realized I could do more with EuroRack for around the same price. There are a few other oscillators that have caught my attention, but none of my favorites are ā€œcomplexā€ (which is the direction that makes the most sense to me for modular), and those that are I either donā€™t like or make for a marginal HP gain (CS-L).

  • Erbe I always regret leaving out.

  • And RenĆ© while not a priority would not make the box really standalone which would be a shame. I question the use of a tempi without RenĆ©, as well.

Any ideas ?

730

A couple of options:

  • Since you have es-8 use the rings in VCV rack
  • Complex oscillator makes sense when you are into FM stuff, otherwise a lot of ground can be covered with a couple of simple oscillators like ts-l for example.
  • Also some uses of brains and wogglebug can be approximated with stages and marbles (or smaller pachinko version) combo (which for melodic cases Iā€™d prefer), here also VCV might be useful.
  • In eurorack all hp gains are marginal
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731

Thanks, thatā€™s food for thought, though sadly I canā€™t do much with VCV as it crackles on my mac after 4-5 modules are in the chain, even with a high buffer (no problems with reaktor or bitwig though).

tā€™s looking like after all the shared system + es-8 might be an option for a starter case. The other one would be exploring removing Erbe and working with stages and marbles which Iā€™m also partial too. Iā€™ll explore both.

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