#691

Looks like, afaict, the Wogglebug &co are based on a circuit which is very similar to the 266/266e FRV (which seems to be what I’m primarily interested in).

Can anyone comment on the Woggles vs. the E.S. Swamp?

#692

I like the look of the Low Gain 2-Bits DAC, but it isn’t out, and no info on when it might be. Any similar alternatives? https://www.modulargrid.net/e/low-gain-electronics-2-bits

#693

Not sure if you’ve seen the nlc sauce of unce.

I believe it’s based on the 265,but may offer the kind of functions you’re looking for.

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#694

It’s not a replacement for the 266e by any means, but especially if you’re interested in the quantised or stored parts of the module, I’d encourage you to look at Teletype for unlimited adventures into generative music!

EDIT: I don’t have one, but I suspect that Crow could do some incredible things along these lines too with the right coding… and it’s only 2hp.

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#695

Sauce of Unce has manual control over feedback, which ends up similar to distribution (if not the same exactly). But, since @ground_state is looking for voltage control over this the Sauce of Unce won’t quite cut it. It’s an awesome module though - I prefer it over the Wogglebug (noise outs are more useful than audio outs in my setup).

Does the Doepfer a-149 do what you’re looking for @ground_state?

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#696

Tbh from the description on modulargrid I don’t really understand what it does :stuck_out_tongue: But it sounds similar/related to the binary modules from Xaoc, the main one being https://www.modulargrid.net/e/xaoc-devices-drezno

#697

So I got my Milky Way in this weekend and ran it through its paces with the firmware update. No real noticeable noise as long as the volume isn’t cranked on its VCA. @csus was right, VCA first and it’s good to go. It doesn’t replace the Valhalla for sure, but for the space it’s really nice for adding ambience. Not going to do the “modular shoegaze” washed-in-reverb sounds, but I do like it so far.

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#698

Anyone has a Make Noise Xoh? I thought it could be useful to have that little mixer included in those 6hp. But a friend of mine adivsed that I bought a WMD pro output instead. He says it is the only output module he has tried that isn’t noisy and that at the price point and having tried Rosie, the Xoh is a risky purchase. There’s very little reselling here and huge import taxes, so I’d like to keep whatever output module I choose. A little bit of noise isn’t a concern though.

#699

I have the XOH. There is no noise that I have noticed. It sounds really clean, good headroom. No issues at all. I’m happy with it.

For the record, I believe its the same circuit as the output of the System Bus on their case, which is used by a lot of folks.

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#700

I’ve used: Rosie, Befaco Out V3, and Ooots none of which exhibit noise issues. I’d also be surprised if XOH did. I would wager your friend’s case and or module choices are why they were getting noise. Eurorack systems can send noise through the power system so it can appear that a module is generating noise even if it isn’t connected to anything - for example, using a monome grid with ansible can create noise throughout the system if the grid isn’t electrically isolated. Which is to say, you’re probably safe to acquire a XOH with peace of mind if your system doesn’t already exhibit noise.

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#701

Thanks both for your replies. This is reassuring enough, I will go with the Xoh as I originally planned. I have Grid powered with Ansible and no noise issues luckily. And Ooots was an alternative that I had in mind. I like Hyrlo as mixer and Ferry to send the mix to an external reverb unit and back. I could pair them with Xoh eventually.

My friend has many years of experience with eurorack, I believe he started with a pure Doepfer system before 2010. But now he has a lot of diy modules mixed in between and is constantly changing modules so the noise could be anything. I believe his advice comes from his unconditional love for the wmd output, only thing he hasn’t swapped.

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#702

I also swear by the WMD Pro Output. Of course that doesn’t mean that other output modules aren’t also good, but when you find something that works it’s sometimes best to just stick with it.

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#703

another +1 for WMD Pro Output. I had a Pittsburgh Outs for a good spell (affordable!) and I have much less noise from WMD and will give them a high five for support too.

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#704

I’m making each little eurorack decision too difficult. XOH is out of stock everywhere I checked. I asked in Perfect Circuit and Control Voltage, if it becomes available soon I’ll go with that otherwise it’ll be the WMD. I’m eager not to turn on the computer every time I want to play.

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#705

Are you sure you need an output module, how about plugging directly from the module before planned output module into what planned output module should output to?

Works fine for most people…

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#706

Yeah, I used to use a Rosie, which was great, but trying to keep things small and portable I thought I’d try without, and go straight into my Zoom H5, worked perfectly. I had to use the pad, but no level issues. If I need headphone out, I can just go straight from the Zoom H5.

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#707

I’m using it primarily with headphones. I guess something like the ALM HPO would work as well. I have nothing else to send it through other than the audio interface currently. I could get some affordable mixer, but I have a small system and that would kill portability. The XOH fits in my system and has the plus of the two channel mixer for little money over the HPO. Plus I could use it with the monitors if I’d like to. That’s what I was thinking. I have time to reconsider until I get a response for the XOH though, so I appreciate the input!

#708

I think of it this way - if someone was selling a pre-built synth for the same amount I’ve spent on my modular I would expect it to have low-noise 1/4” outputs along with a headphone output. If a synth selling for several thousand dollars only had 1/8” outputs that were up to 10x line level and would require huge amounts of attenuation to interface with my other gear, I would have some questions about their design choices/priorities. But the fun/curse of Eurorack is that you get to decide, so if it works for you to just use a VCA, go for it!

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#709

I haven’t followed this discussion too closely, but I ended up just building a 4hp… I use it as a 4-channel (stereo split to mono) 1/4" output into a 4-channel mixer.

The quality of the output will depend directly on the quality of the build, and the parts that go in :slight_smile:

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#710

Hey folks. I have a rack that revolves around loops (via Lubadh) and delay (via DLD).

I want a small mixer to allow a bit more feeding back into the looper. 2 channels with at least two ins per channel, ideally with attenuators in the inputs. I’ve got 6 hp max to spare.

3x MIA fits the bill. Anything else? I could just do 2 2hp mix’s, but that’s more expensive than 3x MIA without really adding anything, in my opinion.