#1174

It’s more a technical limitation than a design feature. Your quantizer can’t know what pitch the oscillator is, it’s only reacting to what the voltage being put into it.

A handy metaphor would be how frets work on stringed instruments, they can’t know what you tuned the string to and shift accordingly, they can only transpose from what the open string is tuned to according to which fret is pressed down.

There are certain more complex modules that take an audio input and autotune the oscillator accordingly but these will always be more complex (and there’s inherent issues with tracking sounds with lots of complex or inharmonic overtones). Klavis CalTrans is the only module I can think of off the top of my head that has this kind of functionality but I’m sure something else is out there.

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#1175

I have four penrose quantizers, very cheap, very simple. They work by the user selecting notes in a scale and it quantizers incoming v/Oct to nearest voltage.

Nobody’s talking about tuning audio signals here (as far as I understood).

All my oscillators are tuned so that 0V is a c, which is how I prefer things. I would not buy a quantizer that wouldn’t let me keep this practice.

I’m perfectly aware that re-tuning the oscillator could make a c-major sound like c-major or c-phrygian and so on. I’m just saying that’s not gonna happen in my rack😎

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#1176

All modular quantizers work like that. It’s a feature, not a bug.

#1177

That’s definitely not the case. All of my other quantizers (and it sounds like @a773’s as well) let you choose both scale and root note. That way you can leave your VCOs tuned at 0V = C, and use the quantizer to change what notes you’re playing without re-tuning everything every key change. Perhaps one of us is misreading what the other is saying? :thinking:

To put this more concretely: there is no setting on Pam’s that lets me output the set of voltages {1/12, 2/12, 4/12, 6/12, 8/12, 9/12, 11/12} (plus or minus integer voltages, e.g. 2+(1/12)), because the root note for Pam’s is always 0V, and in the set I want to use 0V isn’t allowed. However, my other quantizers all would let me choose “A Major”, which would quantize to exactly that set of voltages (because taking 0V = C, that set of voltages I listed is C#, D, E, F#, G#, A, B)

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#1178

Thanks the support! What he said!!!:grin:

#1179

I understand your point now. But one still needs to tune the VCO to a reference note, and to understand the musical meaning of said reference note in relationship to the quantizer’s function – if you want to be in tune with other instruments.

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#1180

Also because Pam’s can only output positive 0 to 5v. I agree with your points. I wanted to use pam’s for quantization but it’s difficult after 1 or 2 octaves too because of precision. I appreciate them adding it though I think it makes sense in context with their SALMPLE module for sure.

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#1181

Any recommendations for alternatives to https://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-audio-i-o-1u ?

It is discontinued. I just ordered a 7U case.

#1182

They replaced it with two smaller modules:

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#1183

Awesome. But out of stock. Is high demand a common thing with Intellijel? I had to get the 7U case via the blemish sale.

#1185

My read is they’re struggling to keep up with demand during the pandemic, which is totally understandable. It’s typically high demand but not this crazy. I ordered my 7U more than a month ago and it’s still “arriving soon”…

#1186

Our 7U cases have an extensive BOM that comprise many different unique suppliers. There are laser cut acrylic pieces, custom made springs, extruded rails, bent/cut/anodized/silkscreened aluminum sheet, cnc machine side cheeks, handles, hinges, fasteners, complex PSU etc. etc. … all from different suppliers. If any one of these parts of services gets delayed in production then our entire batch can be delayed. Add to this the fact that each case is hand assembled and we try to do almost all the manufacturing locally. Making modules is a lot easier (and takes less space too)! Covid-19 is just another factor contributing to slightly longer production times. However, we are working on a big batch of cases right now and we thank you immensely for your patience, delivery is imminent :slight_smile: :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

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#1187

Y’all make awesome stuff, no apologies needed. Excited to hear there’s a batch due soon :blush:

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#1188

You are are amazing. I shopped around A LOT before deciding on the 7U. This is my first case. <3

Thank you so much for creating such beautiful artifacts. And please, my comment was meant in the most positive way possible: implying y’all make such great stuff that everyone keeps buying it is an awesome thing.

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#1190

You guys rule, been blown away by Tetrapad + Tete coupled with the Planar 2, they are tools that really make me feel more connected to my instrument. I’ve also pre-ordered the new 1U Stereo In module pair for my 3U case, any idea when those might be arriving to stores?

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#1191

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#1192

Ok so I’ve got a case, my line in/out sorted out, a few obviously fun modules picked chosen… what other must have utility modules ought I pick up to start?

  • Mixer?
  • Bus?
  • Clock?
#1193

Depends a lot on your other modules and what you’re trying to do. Only have one voice module? Probably don’t need a mixer (unless you have multiple CVs you’re trying to mix, of course). Don’t have any modules that expect clocks (or repeating timed triggers)? Probably don’t need a clock. Not sure exactly what you mean by bus – a passive or buffered multiple? Buffered multiples are great for duplicating pitch CVs in your rack (i.e., multiple VCOs), otherwise passive mults are fine (or stackcables/splitters/etc)

If you’re just getting started, and you have a controller (pitch CVs & gate generator), VCO, VCA, and EG, you’re probably fine. Some modules combine some of those (e.g. Plaits is a combo VCO/VCA/EG) After that add an LFO so your patches have some life, and maybe a VCF depending on your VCO. But don’t get too much before you’ve actually started playing with the thing! Oh and try VCV Rack if you can – it’s a free eurorack emulator for your laptop, so you can build lots of patches and see what types of modules you end up using a lot

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#1194

Thank you so much. I’ll check out VCV Rack.

#1195

A square wave can work as a clock until you get a dedicated module.

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