Holy shit that looks like tons of fun!
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I just built my soundwich after the kit arrived today. Itās kind of silly but itās neat. It sure looks more serious than it sounds.
Havenāt tried triggering anything with it, but I sampled its piezo into the PO-33 and the latterās filter did nice things to those PCB-and-washer rattles.
Also the 0HP LPG is not too shabby, although it has a pretty slow attack.
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andrew
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has anyone used animodule line amp with contact microphones ? (more specifically, contact mic on acoustic guitar)
lil worried it might be too quiet, though i suppose itās possible to chain the two amps so long as they donāt clip.
if itās too loud iāve got a spare vca
EDIT: or knob.farm ferry ? - which I think I could also use as an ouput instead of an HPO
I have started building my first rack, looking for recs for a VCF. I was thinking of getting ripples V1 since patchwerks has them in stock (open box sale too) and I could pick it up todayā¦I was also interested in intellijel polaris. A lot of the modules I originally wanted are out of stock or going for double (like pnwo 
)on reverb. I am waiting on mannequins restock so I can start building my rack from modular grid I have Marbles and Rings on the way in transit with the post. edit: updates just bought plaits on reverb for a decent price (factory build too!)
Heres my rack so far
I donāt really know what to do with scales and steppy right now. Its been a while since I looked into patching. I feel kinda over whelmed, I have been reading patch and tweak and itās great but i wish there was more examples and guides on how to patch.
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yams
1369
Have seen references to using gates + LPGs in an additive context instead of envelopes. I understand how this works in principle (I think): the LPGās tail becomes your decay, but Iām curious how one gets varied envelope shapes from this technique, or generally how to āextendā it, since there are so many resources for complex EGs and not so many additive-centric āgatingā resources. I can see the flexibility of this more āatomisticā approach in the abstract, but am uncertain how to apply it.
I have the DPLPG and Optomix to test with!
@grey I was wondering which self-contained modules you use and like (and also which ones you tried and didnāt like) and why?
Iāve been diving into the Manis Iteritas recently, I get the basics but definitely havenāt explored everything, but I like how self-contained it is and was looking for similar self-contained modules.
DPLPG and Optomix both have a trigger/strike input which opens the LPG, following the natural decay of the vactrol used. In addition to the strike input, the Optomix has a CV input for opening each channel. You can send an envelope here and it behaves in a similar manner to a VCA controlled by an envelope.
I would be concerned about module depth. Double check the module depths on modular grid, if any of them are close to 50mm then itāll require more research unless youāre willing to do trial-and-error. Basically sometimes manufacturers measure depth in different ways, the most common issue is that they havenāt included space for the power connector in their depth measurement, so a 50mm module plus the power might not fit inside a 51mm depth caseā¦ Also sometimes measurements are just impreciseāIām guessing 4msā case depth measurement is very precise so they can avoid getting blamed for things not fitting, but a manufacturer saying somethings 50mm could mean +/- a few mm that could make a difference. Iāve seen people use spacers/washers in between the module panel and the rail to add a few extra mm for space, so that can be a solution in a pinch.
You should be fine as far as power goes, though! Looks like an interesting little system 
@yams noisetrees is right you can just use envelopes and it behaves similar to a vca, but if you want to use gates then modulating the strength and pulsewidth can get you some variation, at least with DPLPG. I donāt have optomix but I think youāve got some modulation/extra cv inputs built in that you can use to modulate
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yobink
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This exactly. I had mine planned out and several of the modules did not fit, even though they met 4MS depth requirements. If any of the modules is close to the advertised depth, or has something like a bottom power header (that doesnāt take into account the extra room for the cable), youāll likely end up investing is some standoffs, which honestly work fine, but tweak my OCD more than a little bit.
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So I decided on ripples for my VCF, picked it up today along with monsoon. Youāre right about leaving steppy alone for now. Itās pretty frustrating to use with sto as I canāt seem to get any sort of melodic sound out of it and all demos seem to be using a percussion for it.
Gexex
1376
at the risk of telling you something you may already know, Steppy is a trigger/gate sequencer. you wonāt get melodic sound out of it (at least not if used as intended).
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grey
1377
Still struggling with this. There arenāt a ton self-contained voices. Here are some observations:
I havenāt had Plaits racked in a while, but itās kinda the ultimate if you can commit itās details to memory. That is where I struggle. Itās a deep module. Rings does what everyone knows Rings does. Iām actually using the JakPlug Braids design, as it is one of the few Mutable downsizes that makes sense to me in terms of layout. The two most important controls are sliders, which works well. Iām using it with a 2hp VCA at the moment. I wish Braids could take an envelope for an input, but otherwise I love it. Itās not self contained, but itās compact. Braids with an Manis-Iteritas-like envelope would be awesome.
Noise Engineering does self-contained well, and aside from Mutable, seems to be one of the few interested in making such modules. Basimilus Iteritas Alter and Manis Iteritas are both good. I have MI racked at this moment. They definitely have āa soundā but itās broader than many of their demos let on. I struggle with exploring them live, as they both have some knob combinations that can sound really disonant. MI is a little safer in this regard. BIA has a number of sweet spots, but the inbetweens can be rough. I really wish BIA had MIās pitch knob design! Iāve accidentally detuned BIA before while practicing, and it sucks.
Iām going to be writing my own envelope generator for crow once the next batch ships this week. Streams was almost ideal, but the envelope shape curve was tricky to control and the volume can become unpredicable, and the source code for Streams is very complex. Manisās envelope is pretty good. BIAās is solid too. Iām not sure why NE hasnāt done a 4hp VCA with an envelope generator with drive or somesuch.
Alternatively: The Multisample mode on Disting EX or Squid Salmpleās pitched samples both work well for voices. Disting giving you high fidelity, Squid has pitch shifting artifacts, but I like that character myself. You can envelope tones from Squid via itās inputs as well if you donāt want the envelope shape to track with the time manipulations. Though at a meta level, I prefer a balance of synthesis to samples. Not everything needs to be dynamic, but I like letting inspiration have a foothold in timbre beyond the effects chain.
This is all stuff Iām actively thinking about still.
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Like Sinc Bucina with drive instead of filtering? I feel like with the harshness and complexity of some of their voices the LPG might be preferable (and theyāve got like a 4 or 5 distortion/drive modules). Iām not in the NE world really but that LPG seems like one of their best/most versatile modules.
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grey
1379
The key difference is that MI and BIA work with triggers and not gates. It could certainly be a filter, but they tend to have a āgungifyingā component in their designs, so Iām just spitballing. Sure you can ping, but thatās instant attack. I like MI because it drones in the far right, where as BIA doesnāt go full drone, but has itās own interesting envelope curve. My system is driven entirely by triggers, so something more akin to their self-containted voices would be really useful for me.
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Is the youtube eurorack community dying off? Iām subbed to a lot of eurorack related accounts and see new vids pop up here and there but the most popular accounts havenāt been posting much lately this year (ann annie, r beny(he still posts but not much eurorack stuff ), light bath, emily). Whats going on these days?
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Helen
1381
Donāt know that itās dying off, particularlyā¦ Agree that the ābig namesā are less active but here are three not-so-big Eurorack names Iāve come across in the past few months, whose videos I really enjoy. Maybe you will, too!
HĆ©lĆØne Vogelsinger: She has recently released an album (find it on Bandcamp) which Iām playing a lot but her YT vids are amazing; usually filmed in incredibly atmospheric derelict buildings, which adds a whole other dimension of ambience(!) - Also a fascinating recent podcast interview with Johno Wells at Dotwave (https://podtail.com/podcast/dotwave/episode-013-helene-vogelsinger-voice-and-voltage/)
HĆ©lĆØne Vogelsinger YT: https://www.youtube.com/c/HeleneVogelsinger/videos
Also, from la France, Tom Leclerc (his āColorful Treesā vid was a real lightbulb moment for me, gave me the push I needed to dive into putting together my first rack [work in progress!] and turned me into a fullblown fangirl of both Mutable Instruments and the dreaded āhouseplant ambientā genre 
)ā¦ He also makes occasional forays into the Great Outdoors to record sessions
Tom Leclerc YT: https://www.youtube.com/c/Tom4_music/videos
And my most recent discovery is ScottMFR (disclaimer, if thatās the word I want, is that he works at Intellijel) - heās been a great source of support and encouragement to me on my Eurorack journey (over at Instagram) but has been posting a series of āModular by Natureā YT sessions, also from outside locations.
ScottMFR (aka brasscat) YT: https://www.youtube.com/user/brasscat/videos
Afterthought: it occurs to me that all three of these good folks have a commonality, in that they all make outdoors vids - joking here, but maybe thatās why so many of the ābigger namesā have gone quiet - theyāre all off hiking around the place to record stuff! 
Anyway, point is that Iām not so sure the YT Eurorack community is dying off, so much as itās going through a period of change while newer voices come through?
Edited for typos
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Thank you for the recs, I have seen some of these vids in my recs but scottmfr is a new one!
dreaded āhouseplant ambientā genre
lol! same here with no shame. I totally fell down the youtube eurorack hole before starting my journey.
with the state of things i figured everyone should be inside playing w/ their rack ahaha but also this is an incredibly stressful time for many so hopefully we will see a bit of a revive when things go back to normal if they ever do
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Helen
1383
Yeah, I guess weāre all reacting differently to the spread of Corona - for myself, Iāve found it really hard to focus on anything creative for long enough to achieve any kind of results, and I donāt suppose Iām alone in that.
Saying that, Jogging House (@boboter here on Lines) has been jaw-droppingly productive recently - as has his compatriot Hainbach - so maybe thereās hope for the rest of us yet!
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boboter
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Ha! It has been a horrible year for me personally so far and that doesnāt even include the pandemic, but I managed to stay prodcutive mostly for selfish reasons, to be honest. It helps me to not entirely drown in worries and also to pay a part of the rent, as being an independent artist and running an independent label arenāt as crisis-proof as one might expect
So you can definitely expect more things from me and my peers this year. Hope that is a good thing.
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