Not 100% sure this is the right thread, but I didn’t see one that looked like it was more applicable

Have any of you ordered internationally (to the US, specifically) from Schneidersladen (or dealt with international orders overall)? I just placed an order with them to the US. Anything to worry about regarding customs or extreme wait times or anything?

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I’ve had a few things shipped internationally, and have bought gear from both Schneidersladen and Thomann. Sometimes things sit in customs for up to a couple of weeks, but more often they just pass right through.

The FM Aid I bought from Schneidersladen would have arrived in only 2 days, except UPS required a signature (despite a request not to) and they managed to bounce it around locally for 4 days until I finally paid to pick it up at a UPS Store.

With COVID-19 I’d expect shipping overall to be a bit slow, and customs too.

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I’ve ordered from them twice to the US. It comes fedex. If it’s over $800 then fedex collects the import tax and charges you a fee for doing so.

I recently build my first modular synth. The only module I don’t have yet is Crow, because of stock. My plan is to play polyphonic MIDI on a Push 2, or polyphonic sequence it with various generative M4L sequencers, and dedicate Crow to be the module that receives MIDI info and sends out the CV. The Odessa oscillator has 5 pitch inputs, and can do 1, 3, or 5 voices. Crow seems to be the only way I’d be able to dedicate individual notes to individual outputs while only using 1 MIDI channel, using a M4L patch. I was thinking about removing the 2hp tune and using that space for a second Crow so I can do more custom M4L stuff, too, or at least be able to utilize all 5 of Odessa’s voices while still having a few CV outs for other stuff like gate, velocity, aftertouch, etc…

Basically I’m just posting this to make sure my plan will work the way I’m thinking it should before I invest in 2 Crow modules.

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Just be aware of the noise issue that some users have had with Milky Way - MW Link. I’ve got a Squawk Dirty and can see/hear this issue with my unit and setup. It is not a problem for 99% of the stuff I do, but I personally would think twice if planning to compose quiet music where spaces or silence between notes was a ket thing.

I’m not meaning to put you off, but do have a listen to the examples around.

I actually bought it on eBay and the seller included this in the description, which I think is accurate of the situation, though my power supply is different - Tiptop studio bus and it has not made a difference:

Full disclosure: I’m selling because I found the module a little noisy in my Eurorack system (an Arturia Rackbrute 6U case) - a low level digital noise and occasional ‘chatter’ associated with some modes. Endorphines have issued ‘noise fixes’ in firmware for this and the Milky Way multi-fx module (see my other listing…) and acknowledge a potential issue. However, it seems to vary from user to user - some have no noise at all - so it’s perhaps associated with the quality of the power supply or grounding in different Euro cases. It’s also probably not an issue at all if you use this followed by a VCA, as in a normal synth design - or indeed, if you make banging techno where silky transitions to and from absolutely silence aren’t a big feature of the music… :wink: In my case I corresponded with the company and sent audio files - they said it was within normal design parameters.

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The only point I’d want to observe here is that Odessa, while technically poly, only offers you a spreadable set of outputs, but not individual outs. This will have some serious repercusions on what you can expect oddess to do. You cannot envelope each voice, versus say a Just Friends or Chord, in order to create any kind of “true” poly so much as provide chordal options. So in practice you’ll need to experiment with how exactly you expect Push and Odessa to relate. I also have an Odessa, and it’s great, but it’s an odd bird when it comes to Hel in use. It may not be the oscillator you’re looking for.

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Does Odessa’s own CV input still pitch continuously while using Hel? Like can you slide a chord around? I’ve tried reading the manual but it’s pretty vague on this point.

That is a good question, and I don’t have it racked this moment or I’d test for you! :sweat_smile: Maybe @Therm0ptic can confirm? If not, I could test for you this weekend.

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I’m not in the phase of buying new sound sources at the moment so it’s no rush at all but it is a make or break question for whether I would consider it or not.

Ok good to know! Mine wasn’t over 800, so I guess I only have to worry about timing. Good to hear! Thanks!

Hmm good callouts. I don’t mind waiting, but hopefully it won’t be too crazy long!

Good question. I haven’t tried that, I have been sliding chords around using the bias knob on the 2hp Tune. I’ll find out tonight.

Also yes I am aware of the fact that Odessa’s polyphony is bottle necked a bit by only having 1 out sorce, but she sounds so great and I already own it so it’s okay. I mean I’ve only got 1u Right now so I’ll definitely expand a little bit in the future and I’ll probably get Just Friends or something eventually.

And yeah tbh I have noticed some noise when there’s no synth sounds. I haven’t even checked if my Milky Way is in Line Level mode or not tho tbh, I really should… But I’m going to work with it for a while and see how it goes because the reverbs are just so beautiful and the noise hasn’t been much of a problem yet, and also I’m pretty interested to see what I can do with a max patch for Crow + the Milky Way CV inputs.

Thanks for the insight, guys.

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Man, I’ve been eyeing the Odessa for a while now. This makes me reconsider. I wish there were more additive sound sources as extensive as Odessa.

All the available paramaters plus the fact that they ALL have CV inputs makes it pretty fantastic.

Sorry - I misread your post and thought you where still looking to acquire everything, rather than already owned. For sure the noise is only an issue if you notice it and it affects you. I think I can live with it too.

I don’t think Hel is essential. It does make pretty (or harsh) chords, but it’s more of a “nice avenue to explore” than a key reason to buy it. It’s easy to miss, but when it says 1, 3, or 5 notes, that is explicit. (No 4 or 2 note options, for example.) It’s a really neat oscillator if you want to experiment with additive. Telharmonic is similar in a few senses, but really seems like Odessa is the better choice from my use of both modules; though Telharmonic has more chord variety, if an extremely weird control over them.

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Looking at options for consolidating the MIDI and audio out modules I have, so I can send MIDI from Max, have a send/return for audio processing in Max, and have a master output. What are my options for a combined audio and MIDI I/O module? Does ES-8 do MIDI?

Here is my case. I’m not using the MIDI out on the Sweet Sixteen, it’s simply a macro controller for the case.

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Can someone explain the hype of the Three Sisters filter? It definitely seems cool, and videos make it sound good, but I’m not understanding why it’s this golden module that can somehow be listed for twice the retail price on reverb? Is it really worth all the hype? Or is it just because it’s tough to get that it’s become some sort of collector’s item/badge of eurorack honor?

You can ping it with three inputs and use it as a mixer. Yes, it’s worth the hype, and not like other filters.

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Besides that, it’s sadly opportunistic people trying to capitalize on a lack of stock to make a buck, wouldn’t suggest getting one right now

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