#1389

Thanks for sharing this!
My experience has been the same in that I’ve not been able to find a lot of self-contained voices, especially smaller ones. The multi-mode Mutable modules as well as some of Noise Engineering’s modules are the ones I’ve found as well. Unfortunately I don’t really get along with the multi-mode idea of most of Mutable’s modules :frowning: I have Plaits but so far it hasn’t clicked, I’ll probably give it another go soon but I expect I’ll be selling it.

The Manis Iteritas really surprised me because my primary association with Noise Engineering is that their sound most of the time is way too harsh for what I’m looking for. This gets confirmed by their videos as well. If you keep the knobs/settings down and only gradually change them you can get a lot of very nice subtle tones out of it, but it does sometimes go a bit off the rails, I’m still learning it though.

I was sort of hoping you’d have found some magic modules that would open some new possibilities :wink:

On the other hand there are a lot of modules that on their own provide a lot of timbral variation though, so they sort of can replace multiple modules but they’re not fully self-contained because they are missing a VCA/VCA-like behavior. Still, there are some interesting options there as well, the ones I’ve mainly been looking at are the Piston Honda, although that also seems to have a tendency to be pretty harsh sounding. And there’s the SSSR labs’s Kotelnikov which sounds nicer to me and is almost a complete voice. They are wavetable based, so quiet different from the MI and Mutable modules. I’m not sure yet if I do or don’t like the wavetable approach/idea.
There’s also the Pittsburgh’s primary oscillator which offers some interesting ways to shape it’s sounds, but I can’t stand/work with blue LEDs so probably won’t happen)
And there are some Noise Engineering modules I have to watch some videos on to see if they might or might not work.
Oh, and Mangrove is of course also somewhat self-contained with its VCA-like behavior, although it of course benefits a lot from having modulation and a filter.

#1390

Sorry I should’ve specified, it’s the Doepfer that causes concern! His modules can sometimes be very deep (PCB’s perpendicular to panel, sometimes). You can see on modular grid that it says the max depth of your modules is 50mm, and the Doepfer one is the only one I checked because I figured. Most modules will fit within 50mm. Again, you might be fine, and you can always use standoffs—just want to make sure you’re aware that this might be an issue!

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#1391

Would anyone with 4ms pods happen to know if I could take the power supply out of a pod 60, and place it in an unpowered pod 64x? I bought a pod 60 without checking module depths, and was wondering if I could save some cash buying an unpowered 64x and swapping the supply.

#1392

I expect that would work, based on a quick glance of the pics. The power jack holes on the 64X appear to be ~51HP apart. You could check that against your 60’s PSU, or ask 4ms directly.

#1393

I took off the power supply from a 20 Pod to a 48 X without any probs.

#1394

Mangrove didn’t work for me. No knocks against it. It does cool stuff; it just feels like a module for someone else. Another option would be crow + W/'s new synthesis mode, but you’d also need to add a TXi or something for controls, so it becomes quite expensive quite quickly. You’d be in very “roll your own” territory, but you also get to have a lot of say in how things sound and what you can change.

There are some things I haven’t tried: Bassline, Domino, M303, the other NE stuff with envelopes.

There’s also the semi-modular route, which gives you a full voice, but obviously isn’t going to be compact: Atlantis, Manther Growl, Tonestar 2600, SV-1, Lil’ Erebus, Moog’s stuff, etc.

Once you leave self-contained, then you’re just back to “which oscilators do I like the sounds of”. I think Plaits is good for exploring that. It offers some of everything. At the very least it can provide more direction for you.

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#1395

finding the added logic in this pnw firmware thoroughly useful, and i haven’t gone deeper than two channels.

Ver 205

  • Add new ‘smooth random’ waveform type. Use width param to go from linear to ‘mario hills’ type transitions.
  • Add new ‘Logic’ parameter type allowing for a channels output to be AND/OR/XOR with anothers.
  • Fix a small ‘blip’ in output when rotating outputs.
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#1396

i have a pretty small system ( https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1241190 ) which includes both crow and teletype. especially with the incredible crow update, is it worth me having both of these in a system this small?

i love crow and really wanted teletype, but have been struggling to anything outside of the tutorials with it - and admittedly, i don’t really have enough to make good use of the tutorial material. all the things i like about just type can pretty much be done with crow, at least for my purposes. i’m sure there are subtle differences, but i don’t think i’ve had to confront them.

should i stick with tt and try to go deeper, or would that hp be better used by something else?

#1397

I think it depends on your workflow and how you hope to interact with the things. I don’t have a crow, but the ability to live edit and add things on teletype as I think of them is one of the things I appreciate about it in a small system—it can fill a lot of gaps with relative immediacy.

Now that I have a norns crow is more tempting, but without a grid I’m personally a little less interested in the performance potential over there (the most interesting to me is Orca, which hopefully someone will eventually port over to Teletype :slight_smile: ) and hooking it up to a computer is not personally that interesting to me. It’s a given here that crow has an enormous amount of potential that has barely been dug into yet, and I’m really showing my personal preferences/nonexistent coding skills. This really depends on how you want to interact with your system. Since you have both now, you can test out the performance interactions of each and see what works for you. Ironically, the space you’d save going with crow would add modules which might be wanting for the extra control teletype would give you :stuck_out_tongue: no easy answers here, sorry.

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#1398

I’d say yes! But then again I might be the wrong person to advice, since I’m just downright in love with the teletype.

If generative and algorithmic appeals to you, to me, the teletype is just perfect, but only when you code your own.

If you wanna look at some real life examples with code accompanied by the music it produces, you could take a look at my GitHub: https://github.com/attejensen/a773_teletype

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#1399

oh this is great! definitely going to mine your code a little. more examples are exactly what i need.

tt never seems to be hard to sell so i suppose there’s no rush - i’ll keep looking into it for now. thanks!

#1400

Feel free to ask any questions, I’ll try my best to answer…

I personally have a hard time learning from other peoples examples, but I put all my teletype stuff on github in the hope that it helps someone with a different learning profile :slight_smile:

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#1402

The Doepfer A-111-6 is a really nice self contained subtractive synth voice in 10hp. The Eowave Domino and the Erica Synths Bassline are also good options if you’re interested in small subtractive voices.

#1403

Thanks! Wasn’t aware of those yet. Having one self-contained and small standard subtractive voice would be nice. On the other hand the nice thing about the Manis Iteritas is that it has a pretty wide range of timbres, a simple subtractive voice is of course a bit more limited, although you can self-patch of course but those results are a bit less predictable for me :stuck_out_tongue:

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#1404

I don’t think Plonk has been mentioned as a self contained voice. I find it to be fun and inspiring.

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#1405

I’ve moved my teletype to my palette case but now I need a module to take its place. Two to four triggered sequences in a module. I have plenty of Rhythmic triggers In the system so do not need that built in.

#1406

May not be exactly what you’re after so sorry, but the Mimetic Digitalis is pretty playable and great for rhythmic sequences.

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#1407

The Doepfer A-111-6 seems like great value for the price and hp! I have 20 hp in my Palette (used primarily as a monophonic voice for basslines to pair with the Octatrack) that I was hoping to fill with a Mangrove and Three Sisters as soon as they’re back in stock. Any advice on what would be a better use of this limited space–Mangrove and Three Sisters or a synth voice like A-111-6 and Three Sisters? Much appreciated!

#1408

You either want the sound of Mangrove or you don’t. It’s a very specific thing.

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#1409

Gotcha, makes sense.