#1552

I hadn’t thought of this, great tip! I assume you’re talking about using the two rows separately and just manually triggering by pressing a button in each row? Or was it something else?

I usually use channels 1and 4 of maths to set different frequencies for the two axes. But that’s not playable in the sense I think you meant.

#1553

Looking to add both a low pass and a high pass filter in a small system that I would be running the signal in series. Looking for ether 2 4hp and each do one or the other or if there is and 8hp that can do both…cant be to deep 45 at max. Any recommendations?

#1554

Do you need to set the cutoff separately for each filter? If not, the Happy Nerding MMM VCF might be interesting to you. If you need to set them separately then the ADDAC 604 might be a good option.

EDIT: I just realized you wanted to use them in series, so the latter would be the way to go.

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#1555

Nice the ADDAC was not on my radar. Not sure I can get down with the smaller knobs as I want to be hands on with them but I’m also not giving them much space but that has all the right function.

#1556

Thank you, @kveye. You bring clarity. I have been watching some much stuff I am dreaming of patch cables :smiley:

Mind clarifying this part for me?

“Sources other than oscillators need input - I’d get something with either live input or simplest file management or with visual interface”

#1557

I meant using the sequencer while it’s running and playing it by enabling/disabling gates as well as using the step jump feature to change up the gate patterns feeding the Rene X and Y clock inputs. But yes, you can also manually trigger them while the SQ-1 isn’t running.

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#1558

Glad if I’m of any help:)
I meant that samplers, loopers and granular processors need something to work on. And interface largely determines how immediate the module is. Whenever menu diving is involved I personally tend to “set and forget”.
By file management I meant “if it lets you put a bunch of audiofiles on a card” it’s easy to work with, it’s not always the case, sometimes names have to be specific, sometimes nitrate or codec, etc.
And also these kind of devices need graphic interfaces more than oscillators, you kind of want to know where in the loop or granular loop you are, those are sometimes performance cues to “where cool sounds are”. And it’s up to you to decide what kind of information you find sufficient as obviously you ain’t gonna get a computer screen in a module:)

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#1559

You could consider the Endorphin.es Squawk Dirty To Me filter.
Not analog and some people have complained about digital noise (I can hear it if I crank the gain of everything from console to interface up, but otherwise I can’t, they’ve done a fair bit with the firmware to help)…
But it’s cheap, small, stereo, tons of filter modes, stereo widening possibilities (You can delay the left / right channel slightly) and has a high pass filter in series. Plus, although completely subjective of course, I think it sounds great.

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#1561

Taking up slightly more space, but with more flexibility and bigger knobs, you could get two Doepfer A121-3s.

#1562

Unfortunately most the doepfer stuff is to deep for the smaller intellijel case. That’s also been part of the problem. I just came across this wmd filter https://www.modulargrid.net/e/wmd-c4rbn
Side not I wish modular grid had depth in is search functionality and components acutely measured depth with cable attached.

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#1563

You might not even need a sequencer module then. Sequences can be made by mixing any fluctuating control voltages together. The results are usually pretty chaotic sounding. There’s a youtube video of a guy getting a short sequence out of a Maths alone.

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#1564

I say go for Rene. It’s clearly something that you’ve researched and will find use in and enjoy using. There are ALWAYS gonna be any number of ways to achieve whatever in modular so don’t sweat that aspect.

Edit to add: and if Rene doesn’t do it for you you can always sell it and pick up an ornament and crime with hemispheres firmware and use the Cartesian app :innocent:

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#1565

This really is a very beginner question but I don’t feel confident that I’m reaching the most effective solution or even getting this right! So maybe some friendly folk here can help…

I have an 0-coast and just picked up an Intellijel palette. Pam’s new workout is in there and I’d like to add a second sound source with Rings. I’m going to keep the rest of the hp empty, until I reach a point where I know which direction I want to go.

So for now, I would like to send the audio from the 0-coast and rings to an effects pedal - Strymon Volante - and then take that stereo output into an audio interface.

So which 1u modules would be best suited for this?

The 1u line in to bring in the 0-coast? Or the stereo line in? Should I then be looking to send the 0-coast and Rings into a mixer? Duatt or Quadratt? And then sending this to the 1u stereo line out?

What have I got wrong and am I missing any other obvious necessities?

Any chance you could mull this over @slowwild?

#1566

Running a mono signal into the left and right inputs of a stereo effect is probably not what you want to do (ignoring Modular Vs line level). You also probably don’t want to apply your effect as an insert, but rather control how much you want on each part, I.e as a send effect. Some eurorack mixers have line level send and returns, but it’s not a hugely common feature, so I’d say you probably want to have your effects in the rack (working on modular level signals), or to use your effect outside the rack. This means getting a line level mixer and outputting the modular signals into channel strips on the mixer, and having that effect on a send. The 0 Coast presumably has line level out so you just need to get your ring voice out. This could be an output module, or even just an attenuator. An attenuator is a cheap option as you can get a bank of several in one small module.

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#1568

First, you can interface your 0-Coast with rings and any other eurorack module without any line-in/out level shifting. Most Semi-modular fits the eurorack standard, it’s when you want to get in or out of eurorack to other gear where it’s more complex.

I assume you want to mix the 0-Coast as one voice and Rings as the 2nd voice. neither of them have stereo. So you would need something to mix those 2 mono signals into a single mono signal.

The setup you describe would work great, i’ll break down a couple things…

  • Quadratt 1U (my fave 1U, you’ll find use for the other 2 channels for sure. iIhave one in every case I put together)
  • Duatt 1U (Quads’ little sister, my pref is still Quad)

So you got a mix, now you need to take that signal and bring it into into the Voltante, you will need to bring the Level down from Eurorack levels (very hot).

If you just need to get that mono signal out, then you can run it with a ¼" to ⅛" cable from the Duatt/Quadratt into the left input of the Voltante. You’ll need to attenuate the levels on the Duatt/Quadratt.

If you want to take advantage of the ¼" case jacks, you can do that a few ways…

As you mentioned… If you want balanced outputs, then Stereo Line Out 1U will do the balanced AND level conversion. (Note the Voltante will not take advantage of balanced connections, but your interface/mixer probably does)

Other cheap passive option is the the X/Y module. You can patch the attenuated signal from the Duatt/Quadratt into X on the X/Y, then take a ¼" cable and patch from the palette to the Voltante.

Hope that helps. We can talk more here, or you can PM me anytime, here instagram, where ever.

[edited some draft text off the bottom]

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#1569

All questions are good! So, you technically don’t need anything more than what you have now, since the O Coast has a mixer on board. You could run Rings into the mixer channel with the attenuverter (right channel), and the output of the O Coast into the left channel, using the dynamics control to manage its levels. You could then send one of those mixed outs to the pedal as a mono signal, and output stereo from the pedal.

That eats up your O Coast mixer, which is maybe not ideal. I would look at Duatt or Quadratt at that point, like you suggested, and do your mixing there. You’re always going to have use for a module like that.

This assumes a simpler signal chain, just your synths going into the pedal, and managing echo level there. If you want to manage the level of send to the pedal separately for each synth voice - leaving one dry while the other wet - then things get more complicated.

But, if you’re just starting out, keep it simple! O Coast + Rings -> Volante -> interface sounds plenty fun, and you don’t need much more than what you have, if anything more.

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#1570

i actually do have o_C with hemispheres. i switched back to the original firmware for a while because i like using the deeper more controllable apps, but i think i’ll revert back to hemispheres once i get some more modules that will make using a logic applet + envelope or quantiser applet simultaneously much more useful. i tried that cartesian arpeggiator app but didn’t really find it very interesting. good tip though, i’ll have to revisit that :ok_hand:t2:

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#1571

Another avenue worth checking out is the recently released Vermona Melodicer. I just got mine and it’s insanely fun. It’s maybe a bit more random than you’re looking for. You don’t really control it, rather you influence what it’s going to do. And if you have a precision adder (o_C has one, I believe, but I use the one on Disting), you can create some pretty cool moving musical sequences.

Maybe not quite what you’re asking for, but it’s worth checking out to see if it’s a direction you want to go.

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#1572

oh yeah that is cool. i wasnt aware of that

not really the same thing, but i do really want a muxlicer i think, from befaco. more as a sequential switch though, to use with multiple different sequences, triggering them at different times. i think that would be cool. but yeah, i want more controlled randomness sort of. complex gates and evolving pitch patterns

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#1573

O-c plus Maths is a pretty powerful sequencer. Self-patch Maths to make a complex function, quantize it in o-c—boom!

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