#1759

That was fast, thanks all for the input! As expected I have some videos to watch and specs to read. I like the idea of having two 6 hp modules rather than one 12-hp with 4 identical VCAs (Blinds or Quad VCA).

I know it’s not the most important factor, but Tallin looks good!

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#1760

+1 for the Tallin. It is my only VCA, but I like the layout, the drive modes, and the discrete exp/lin CVs.

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#1761

I have a spare 14HP in my rack and I would really like to put a Mutable Instruments voice in there (to complement my Rings and Clouds) but I’m not sure if I’d be best served by a Plaits and a spare 2HP for something else, or a Tides. Above anything I’d be seeking flexibility - but I would love any advice!

#1762

I’d give the edge to Plaits – it’s a fine voice in its own right, but I think it makes an excellent partner for Rings in particular, both as an exciter and as a “duet” voice.

Tides is great, but has a more specific domain and has a little less to offer to Rings IMHO.

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#1763

Plaits is great, but for “flexibility” Tides is both a voice and modulator. I guess it depends on what kind of flexibility you are looking for. If you are looking for a lot of different possibilities with synth voices > plaits
if you want a more limited synth voice with really great modulation capabilities > Tides. It can modulate your Rings and be a separate synth voice, whereas Plaits can just accompany Rings as a synth or percussive voice. Probably couldn’t go wrong with either.

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#1764

It’s not as full featured of a modulator as Tides, but the outputs of Plaits are DC coupled, and as of Firmware 1.1 you can turn the frequency range down to an LFO mode: https://mutable-instruments.net/modules/plaits/firmware/

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#1765

Both @Starthief and @DMR have great points. Using the particle noise or some of the percussive modes on plaits would be a great exciter for Rings, and having it as a LFO option would be great as well.

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#1766

Oh go on, I’ll play!
What about Stages if you want flexibility? The harmonic oscillator is very cool!
(All depends on what else you have really)

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#1767

ALM added smooth random waveform on the 206 firmware. Oh how I love PNW :heart:

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#1768

I picked up one of these and I have to say - these knobs feel great. I don’t know how or what they do differently, but this is my first Klavis module and these knobs/pots are great enough for me to come and post on the internet. About the knobs.

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#1769

Plaits is a really great module. I’ve had mine for over a year and I discover new sweet spots regularly (a recent favorite: chord mode, sweeping timbre + morph quickly by hand). Émilie clearly put tons of thought into making it a ‘playable’ voice. I find Tides indispensable too, but I don’t find it all that interesting as an (audio rate) oscillator – except when following or syncing to another audio source, because that can get really gnarly really fast.

#1770

I just got a second Plaits clone. Two of them in tandem is excellent.

#1771

I love the idea of having two Plaits as an oscillator bank. I’ve been tempted to swap my factory Plaits for two Knit modules (uPlaits) as they’re exactly half the size and i’m otherwise out of case space. The ergonomic and aesthetic perfection of Mutable’s plaits is what’s holding me back. How do you find yourself using the two together?

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#1772

I tried n-track and a number of other apps, all of which refused to recognize anything other than the built-in microphones on the iPhone and iPad, despite finding and attempting to use the adapter which I thought would be detected as line-in and override the built-in mic input. My frustration carried over into the recording I made after failing to have any luck with tuners, and now I plan to trash the recording until I find a better solution.

#1773

It’s great having two. They’re the Antumbra Knit. I’ve only had the second one for a couple weeks, so far for the following purposes primarily:

1: Two different notes with the same (or interestingly dissimilar) timbre triggered simultaneously. (Just got a Varigate 4+, my first non-Monome Grid sequencer besides what’s built into the o_C Hemisphere Suite, so I’m experimenting with that.) Among other things, these can be power chords.

2: The same note from both, but one of them slightly out of tune with the other (warped by a slight LFO, the result of a Batumi being moderated by an S.P.O.).

3: I feed both the Plaits into the two ins of the Make Noise FXDf, and then four of the outs go into a quad VCA, and I use different envelopes from a Zadar to trigger them as percussion. I use various LFOs to affect one or both of the Plaits, in and out of sync with the percussion. (The Make Noise FXDf is the other module I own two of, not that I use the second in this context.)

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#1774

this is partially about cases but mostly about modules.

i’m considering expanding my setup into a larger case and have run into the classic issue - to 1U or not to 1U? what’s the “state” of 1U these days? is it worth getting the rail for it even if you’re not getting any tiles immediately? i’ve settled on pulp format (unless someone wants to make a case for intelly?), mostly because of the abundance of DIY kits in that format and the more standardized sizing.

i just tend to struggle to fill a 1U rail on modulargrid. i have stuff that looks useful for sure but none of it that i feel super strongly about, which makes me wonder if it’s necessary at all.

EDIT - i’ll leave this as i’m sure other people are wondering the same, but i think i’ve decided for myself to go with a 1U row. it’s not much extra in terms of case cost and it gives you the option, which is hard to argue against. even if you never fill the row.

#1775

I guess like everything else with modular, it comes down to personal preference. I have the Intellijel format and tend to keep the 1u modules pretty basic/fundamental, and with full sized trim pots. Line in/out, buff mult, headphone out. And a couple of Quadratts - Because you can never have too many offset, mixer, attenuator combos.

I’m not sure I’d like having 1u micro versions of more feature rich modules. But I could see where someone might. And also the case for skipping 1u altogether.

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#1776

i guess maybe the question then is how to effectively plan, which is in a nutshell about 50% of the questions on every modular forum. i’m also agonizing over case size - i don’t want a case that’s any bigger than what i need, but i’m still figuring out what i need. just like when i got started, the solution is endless research and theoretical planning.

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#1777

I’m probably the wrong person to help there since I tend to buy with plenty of room to expand and then obsess over filling the holes. :slight_smile:

I guess the nice thing about 1u is that you can fill it with “boring” stuff and maybe get away with a bit fewer hp of 3u space to fill with the exciting modules on your list.

#1778

The thing is, you will not know what you need until you try. So I’d suggest going with what is easier obtainable for you. In my case I’m all for intellijel 1u, specifically quadratt and steppy.

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