#58

Another example of a DIY tape delay:

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Some day I’ll try doing something similar myself, i’m sure…

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#59

Echoing (:wink:) praise i saw above for the Catalinbread Belle Epoch. I’ve got an RE-150 but I was looking for something smaller/more reliable for gigging. I picked up the deluxe version today from a local shop, A/B’d against the the El Capistan.

I’ve yet to try it with my modular, but aside from the delay itself, one of the best things is how GOOD the preamp overdrive sounds on this. In the shop I was playing a Strat and a “Twin Reverb”-like amp and it was the best overdrive sound I’d heard in quite some time.

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#60

The deluxe looks AMAZING. Can’t justify the upgrade at the moment. But if it takes after the little one it’ll be a fabulous pedal.

Edit to add: have also salivating over Mooer’s Ocean Machine

Price is below £200 now. Seems like a bargain. 2xdelays, reverb and a looper. Reroutable however you want internally!

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#61

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space case te-2 is open for pre-orders. i really like the idea of 8 sets of 3 parameters that can be selected with either buttons or sequenced.

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#62

Maybe for you it is! :wink: I don’t see anything on the website, and I haven’t gotten any emails about it.

#63

it was in the mw thread, i think he was going to send to maillist this weekend - you can just email him spacecasetapeecho at gmail with the subject TE-2 Pre Order

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#64

It’s not directly tape delay related, but I wasn’t sure if making a new topic made sense. Maybe a “The delay thread” similar to The Reverb Thread would be nice?

Anyway, does anyone have any suggestions for a MIDI syncable stereo delay that supports ping-pong?
The difficulty seem to be in finding this in a small desktop format for a reasonable price (ideally < 150 EUR). So far it seems mainly the big/do it all digital delay pedals (Timeline, DD-500, etc) are the only options, but those are pretty expensive. The OTO Machines BIM could also be an option, but that’s even more expensive :frowning:
In rack-mount format there seem to be more choices, like the TC Electronic M300, but I don’t have space for a rack.

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#65

I really like the Nemesis Delay. You can overwrite presets with your own, and it’s got the features you were looking for. A little outta the ideal price range, but a good bit less than the Timeline, at least.

#66

just want to echo

everything’s better with tape delay

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#67

Thanks for the suggestion. I actually already looked into the nemesis and it seems to be a rather capable pedal that isn’t too big and is quiet a bit less expensive than the Timeline or BIM. Do you have one yourself?
I decided against it because of the desktop app to manage it, I run Linux and it’s only available for Windows or Mac OS so can’t use it. How essential is it in your opinion for working with the pedal?

One thing I wasn’t sure about is that it does stereo summing of the inputs before it applies the effects on the signal. See https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/21387969/ for an explanation about it.
I’m not sure how much of a bad thing this is, it seems more pedals/manufacturers do this, like for example Strymon https://www.strymon.net/faq/how-does-the-trs-stereo-input-get-processed/. I couldn’t find anything about the Timeline regarding this though.

And from a desktop organization perspective I very much prefer to have the in- and outputs at the back instead of on the sides.

#68

The timeline is true stereo, at least in some modes. But I think it works that way with all the algorithms.

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#69

I just have the app on my phone and plug that into the pedal if i want to tweak any of the patches i made (made using the phone app).

The summing to mono pre-delay hasn’t bothered me, but your mileage may vary :slight_smile:

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#70

500

first glimpse of the TE-2 Space Case

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#71

indeed

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#72

new tape echo just announced by true experts ECHO FIX

cv control over echo & feedback

preorder here:

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#73

~16:52 -ish
"…that’s kind of our formula, tape echo, and old machines that are on the verge of giving up the ghost -a.weatherall
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#74

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I’ve wanted one of these for years so finally took the plunge :sparkles:

I’m loving it so far. There is just something about tape machines that is very hard (impossible?) to replicate.

Delay time goes up to ~1.5 seconds, and the SOS function is crazy (approx 20-30 seconds loop which I assume plays back whatever is present on the tape loop before it hits the erase head).

You can also control delay time with CV (+/- 5V) but I haven’t felt the need yet (it’s nice having all that character already built and baked in rather than trying to emulate with random lfo’s, filtering, noise etc :grinning:).

It’s built like a tank. A thing of beauty that I am going to cherish :heart:

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#75

Wow, that is very tempting. What is the advantage of this $2000 unit over say a $7 ipad tape echo app? Can you really hear a difference?

#76

I don’t own one so I can’t comment on whether "you can really hear the difference’ but you also don’t need me to tell you the difference between a $7 iPad app and brand new studio hardware designed & built by an expert with tape echos… (Your question feels like disingenuous trolling, which has thankfully always been rare on this forum. Lets keep it that way. But incase I am mistaken and you are genuinely interested, maybe ask Nils Frahm, he just took delivery of two of them. Ask him why he doesn’t just use two iPads)

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#77

Please assume good faith. It’s the polite thing to do. My experience with iPad apps is very good. The Waldorf Nave sounds better than their latest hardware. The Eventide apps sound the same as the pedals. I’ve never owned or played with a tape echo, so have no reference.

What I want to know is: What is the difference between a tape echo and an emulation? Is it audible?