#101

Follow up tall vid of some more goofing:

There’s 8 sensitivity levels. This shows 1, 4, 6, 8, again at lowest tension. All response curves are set to linear except volume which is log (on top of whatever curve the module CV inputs have). Normally I prefer medium/low sensitivity and medium tension and you can really lean into it.

I think the Touché marketing videos give a pretty accurate portrayal of how it works in a melodic context with their presets, and any half decent keyboard player should be able to achieve what they’re doing there (even the violin/strings videos). Obviously there’s different challenges if you’re using it with a modular and no keyboard, but they’ve really put a lot of thought into making it flexible enough to get deep with. I’m interested in more experiments with clock rate, creating cv “macros” or groups to control a bunch of stuff at once, sending pulses, using it with nord modular, etc and can post more as I do that.

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#102

I have been generally using mine where up = dynamics, down = timbre, and left/right are both assigned to the same CC/CV.

Side movement is good for pitch bend, but also something like the time of a short delay, so it can act as vibrato with small quick movement, or slower and more subtle shifts that aren’t pitchy. Or the grain size of a pitch shifting plugin, Position on Rings, etc.

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#103

found a new use for mine with modular today-

vco -> vca
pressure up -> vca/lpg volume
pressure down -> slight pitch bend
pressure right -> quantizer (for me, rene) -> vco pitch

slewing the quantizer output a touch (or a lot) can be great too. makes the modular feel very alive in this way, and can sound a lot like reeded instruments. with varied levels of pretend wind-player precision as it were, with the down pressure controlling a little sloppy pitch bend or out of tune player :wink:

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#104

I really think I’m gonna end up getting one. Before I can actually buy @randy a soundplane, it’s actually the thing that makes the more “sense” to me from all the “MPE(ish)” (I know it’s not MPE) gestural controllers.

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#105

FWIW I’ve had mine since a few weeks after they became available. At first I used it primarily as a midi controller with, primarily, Zebra and occasionally custom Bidule stuff. That’s pretty much stopped due to the low resolution. It FEELS fantastic - I so wanted it to work, as it really has a level of physical<>musical connection that I find missing in even most MPE controllers that tout it - but in the end, for my purposes (which involve, I admit, an absurd amount of tiny-almost-imperceptible changes and nuance in performance - I’m one of those nuts who think they feel a difference using 14-bit velocity with pianoteq, but real or not, I DO feel it) the lack of resolution made it start to feel like other failed (for me) midi options. I would, however, not hesitate to use it to play music that did not require such. The physical feel is marvelous.
For CV, for whatever reason mine has been a bit finicky, and I haven’t spent enough time using it with my modular system, but when I"ve gotten it to work it’s been wonderful. And 12 bits seems ok for me. Not ideal, but about the same as someone else above noted - right at the threshold, which is better than most, maybe almost all, such options right now.

#106

You could smooth the signal out with a slew, then you wouldn’t hear any stepping, theoretically. I don’t know what DAW you’re using but FL Studio has slew built into the MIDI learn functionality and I expect most others do as well.

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#107

I have done that, even patched together a 7-to-faux-14 bit converter in Plogue Bidule. But I use a lot of very subtle changes that need to at times land between steps, that sort of thing. I can get around that when something is super planned/scored, but that still takes the feeling of direct “playing” away. And there’s a slight delay using slew that drives me batty.
I admit I’m way too easily thrown out of the zone by stuff like this, and clearly most people are fine with it. It’s such beautiful design, and I have seen people (who play very different music than mine) get amazing things out of it.

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#108

Although it seems ridiculous to need such a workaround, you could use the 12-bit CV outputs and a CV to MIDI converter to convert to 14-bit MIDI (though of course the resolution would actually only be 12-bit).

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#109

I don’t find myself making gestures precise enough to ever worry about the resolution. When I want more subtlety, I just use smaller modulation assignments or attenuate my CV if converting. But then, everybody plays differently :grin:

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#110

Anyone using it with the norns and how to do the mappings? Thanks!

#111

I just asked a long-winded question in the Eurorack thread trying to find the smallest module I could use to combine the Touché’s CV3 and CV4 outputs into one bipolar signal, then opened up Lié and realized it’s literally as simple as doing this:

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BUT. I’d like to apply a curve to that signal to create a deadband around 0V, or at least make the range around 0V less sensitive – something like a tangent curve. The preset curves in Lié look like they’re all… single-quadrant? for lack of a better word. Is there a secret bipolar curve feature I haven’t found yet?

follow-up: hand-editing the XML preset files is one option.

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#112

bump

maybe it was all the publicity around the new Arturia synth that got me thinking, but I realised a few days ago that by fixing one of the shiftings to change balance between two timbres on a multi-timbral synth you get an easy way to tap the power of the touche through your synth’s front panel rather than having to go through the app on the computer to tune the touche to each patch. this fixes the main complaint i had around the touche - not being able to use it standalone effectively. hooked up to a prologue 16 and it is opening a tonne of new possibilities for both the synth and the touche.

on another synth it might be the sort of thing you would use aftertouch for, but the prologue doesn’t have aftertouch and beside the touche has a very differnt feel under the hands. likewise, you can do something similar with a pedal, but it’s not quite the same - there is something unique about the feel and response of the touche and it is really a joy.

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