#471

Good man. Next round is on me (same as at The Social?)

#472

hi all!

i think it’s time for an update…

what’s the status?

16n is awesome, and it works well. it talks cv, usb, midi & i2c. it looks like this:

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this is revision 1.25, which added more central standoffs for support - the whole thing is nice and stable. these aluminum plates were water-jet cut by @joshhh (thank you!!)

and here’s one that @infovore built with a plastic top and bottom

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how can i get one?

we have decided to open source 16n as of revision 1.25 and we’re working on doing that right now: we just have some final prep work (sorting files, firmware, build instructions, etc.) to do to make it ready for you all.

because @infovore and i don’t have the bandwidth to facilitate a group run / DIY kits, we are hoping that sharing these resources now will encourage the community to self-organize.

for those of you that are content to wait it out, i still intend to offer a limited run of fully built units. the timeline and price is unknown. these will have a revised aesthetic design and complete enclosure (no open sides). you can register for update emails for these built units here: https://goo.gl/forms/kOMpXEggmnZCjvtg1

we’re in the home stretch!

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#473

I love you both very much :slight_smile:

So my main aim with this till “the other thing” is released is to talk Just Type to my Just Friends …is this possible with the 16n?

Regardless - fun fact - i used to check on the old 16n page so much it was considered a regular page i visited (sad) and tried to get a few people into the osh park ref that Tehn put up so this is absolutely brilliant

BTW if either of you need any help with annoying paperwork type stuff im off at the moment and would love to contribute…so let me know via PM

Good luck and god speed!

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#474

So would it be possible with this to control Just Friends via i2c with the 16n without a Teletype? It seems that is what some folks are talking, I just want to be clear.

#475

definitely not out of the box.

#476

this thread has some talk about that (I don’t think there’s anything definitive)

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#477

Thanks you! I’ll check that out.

#478

Divkid posted his faderbank in action at the Deer Shed festival.

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#479

Nice suprise when I saw a faderbank pop up while watching this! The faderbank is perfect for getting people ‘playing’ with an unfamiliar modular instrument.

#480

just stumbled upon this and as a er-301 user that was planning to build a cv faderbank this is so much more awesome, with the i2c communication. Definitely interested, but why no buttons? would make it just a bit more awesome! :smiley: its a shame to waste fader on binary stuff!

But again, thx for making this!

(new on the forum btw, HI! seems like a really cosy place)

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#481

I didn’t design it, but I think the idea is to keep it simple and as widely-usable as possible, and I would guess a significant number of potential users want it to be only faders (at least I like it that way). this especially makes sense in that it initially was invented to accompany a monome grid which is fully binary in its control. feature creep can be dangerous :stuck_out_tongue:

now, once the source files are shared, anyone willing to go to the trouble to modify it can make whatever they want based on this!

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#482

I kinda agree with you, but i also feel that just a few buttons would make it even more widely usable :smile: as this thing is really appealing and usable to a lot of people that don’t have an Monome grid.

But yeah, fingers crossed that someone will “buttonize” it when the source files are shared as i’m to much of a noob for that stuff :slight_smile:

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#483

I check this thread every day. I know it’s only a little unit with 16 faders on it but the prospect of what you can do with it is thrilling. Can’t wait to build one.

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#484

Same here. Can’t wait! :slight_smile:

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#485

i have a spare prototype from the previous version that i’m selling for the cost of parts

https://llllllll.co/t/fs-la-16n-prototype/15526

edit: sold

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#486

Hi, Any news on when this latest PCB revision will be up? Is v1.2 final? (other than missing extra mount holes)

If so would you mind if i order boards and arrange a small group buy on here?

Cheers

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#487

v1.2 is 100% functional, but i recommend waiting for v1.25, as the added support holes make panel mounting easier and the whole thing much more sturdy. we should be open sourcing the files shortly, when @infovore is ready.

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#488

Thanks, i thought this was the case. I am soon to press go on some Schaefer aluminium panels (Front panel designer) with embedded standoffs (6) so that the front panel only has slots visible. Not cheap but monome like in design and very reasonable given the quality- will obviously align this with the 1.25 artwork , and let people know about availability

Cheers

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#489

1.2 is absolutely not final, and I would not recommend making any.

1.26 is the final 1.2x branch - a finessed version of 1.2 with M2.5 holes and much better panel layout. It is not available publicly yet.

However, disclosure: I am working on 1.3 which uses a multiplexer to significantly reduce the number of pins required on a Teensy. It means we’ll just the outside two rows of pins, rather than the horrid SMD pads underneath the Teensy. One extra chip makes building the whole thing significantly easier and more reliable.

The reason there’s no release yet is that if it turns out 1.3 is a much better idea, it’d require firmware that differs in key ways to 1.26, and I don’t want to bifurcate the product: I’d rather people weren’t going “oh, which version should I use?”. I’d like everything to be backwards-compatible going out. So: let’s see if 1.3 is the line for final release. I should have 1.3 complete on my workbench this week.

I appreciate you would all like this yesterday. We apologise for the slight delay. We are only human.

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#490

fantastic! this was my most-despised part of the teensy builds.

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