so many of you know that lines evolved from the old monome forum, which had been active for almost as long as monome has existed (we switched forum software once early on.) there is quite a lot of information there-- some good, some relevant, but also a lot of noise, and worst of all some information that is no longer valid and misleading.
i know some of you have strong feelings about the fate of this archived forum. currently i’m paying several hundred $ per year simply to have this old web server stay as-is, and this is an expense i’d like to get rid of.
so-- i’m looking for suggestions on how to archive (properly) this site and move it somewhere very inexpensive, or preferably, free. at the moment it’s basically a huge stack of text. there is nothing app-like about it.
the old forum runs on vanilla forum. the search is absolute shit. i’m not sure if simply moving the software completely to a new server, or installing a new vanilla system with the backed up mysql data, or doing some sort of page-by-page spider export to html…
i’m in need of volunteers that know about this stuff! so i can stay focussed on building these new fun music toys…
short of a kind benefactor mirroring it as-is and paying those bills, what about moving it to GitHub? GH also has wiki functionality if necessary, though that would require more conversion work. or moving to a cheaper, static-html hosting site, disabling the server-side search/db entirely.
is the old forum currently on archive.org? that’s a less friendly UI to wade through, but at least it would more or less contain its last-used state.
I shot a note to a friend who works at the Internet Archive (aka archive.org), and he said if it’s of interest: “The (associated but not officially connected) volunteer Archive Team can do this in short order… and it will end up in the Archive.”
I don’t know anything about the technicalities but I see the elektronauts forum moved to discourse and managed to move all the conversations from their old forum over too. Was that ever a possibility for lines? Too complicated or expensive?
archive.org should be of interest regardless of whether we also pursue other means of making an archive. It’s good to have an archive of the web as time progresses. I just wish their methods were better at capturing binary files (images, sound files, .zips, etc)
the archive is valuable
in my limited (in)experience with the Academy, terminology matters/ 'that’s not philosophy, that’s sociology, no anthropology, no art history, or art, or music…
perhaps there is a way to describe the 'monome archives in such a way as to make them desired by an institution of higher learning- like `'self-help graphics at ucla
cool, I’m thinking it’s actually valuable to a UC, Yale, NYU or somewhere
they have archives, and monome may only be looking for a few terabytes
plus, it really is a part of the academic computer music scene