Oh, does this mean you are only selling them within the US for now? Or would you ship to europe in case one tries to purchase a pcb/acryl kit?

I’m shipping everywhere.

But unfortunately shipping from the US to elsewhere is kinda pricey (base is $15 for a small parcel up to 1/2 pound). So it makes sense to go in with a friend to buy a couple pcbs and split the shipping.

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So i got my fates up and running!

Thanks a lot @okyeron for making this possible and to every one involved.

Very good build documentation pcb and case.

Did not manage to get the long left bottom screw fit yet…

Now to think what to do with 2 norns yayyyyy

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Same as before, but with deliberately unsync’d clocks.

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I’ve been thinking about this… for 3 norns. Hahaha.

Figure mlr or mangle or Compass and some sequencer all plugged in to VCV Rack! I would prefer to have some method of syncing them all…

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Use Ableton link to sync them all :slight_smile:

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Is that something you are working on?
I know it could be done on the organelle…maybe trough pd?

It should be working in orac on fates/norns

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Yay thats great news! Im going to install orac on my fates when i get some time :slight_smile:
Guess link will also work trough the ethernet port?
Many thanks!

I assume so… (though admit Ive always used wifi :slight_smile: )

Also if norns supports midi clock, then you can use Orac (on norns) as a bridge for Ableton link -> midi clock to your other norns .
(I do this quite a bit on the organelle, to bridge ableton link to my eurorack)

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I’ve been experimenting with different options quite a bit. The Norns has had lots of trouble accepting midi clock in my experience. First off, it really only accepts midi from a device that it is connected to in the ‘Devices -> Midi’ menu. I need to try and see if a FATES Orac shows up there. If so, then we truly may be in luck!

I’ll be traveling soon, and was wondering if iPhone or iPad as MIDI sequencer to run norns synths such as Passersby is at all possible? I’m pretty sure this is what @okyeron created the Toast for, huh? I have a lighting to USB-A “camera connector” kit, but then realized both devices in this scenario are USB MIDI hosts.
Are there wifi OSC apps that solve this sort of thing?

I don’t think it will. Orac is doing the midi stuff at the system level. Norns is relying on the USB subsystem to list items in it’s midi menu.

Exactly that. :slight_smile:

Bluetooth is not supported in the norns stack, but OSC is there (over Wifi if you like). You’d need to write some kinda OSC receiver stuff or OSC-MIDI bridge in the specific norns script I think.

TouchOSC on iOS is one way to make a controller, but it won’t be sequencer logic.

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Cool, I should have gotten a Toast a while ago, too late now!
Thanks, I had just read on norns help that bluetooth isn’t there (i edited my question to yank that, but not before you answered it).
OK, I think I’ll bring my NeoTrellis M4 running Arpy (based on Stretta’s Polygome) instead.

There is a project about OSC-MIDI bridge:

Yeah, I figured as much. The Norns prefers to be in charge, or, better yet, just doing its own thing. My main tool of music making right now has been VCV, the TwoHost works well for notes out! Clock back in (to facilitate something like modulating the Norns bpm) becomes tougher.

In the future, it’d be cool to learn enough about programming to properly interface the Norns OSC with cvOSCcv to allow easy retrofitting of scripts and sequencers to drive the VCV Rack and be effected by it.

But truly, with my programming, it will probably not happen for a long time (if ever). Either way, I’m really curious to see how the new influx of users approach the clock/midi issue in the future!!

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Linking up norns to midi clock or link should not be difficult.

But does norns have a concept of a system clock? Or is every patch creating its own metro?

If the latter, not sure how once we have an external clock tick ( from whatever source) we would tie that to patches without having to edit them.

( orac has a common clock module which can be sourced from wherever, then it feeds that to other modules - who can then sync, divide from that )

The Norns has the general ‘BeatClock’ tool, but I don’t believe it is a straight bpm midi clock as is ORAC’s. It’s script dependent. I’ve looked in to other options, but keep coming up with some difficulties. When scripts are looking for a midi event in the form of a tick, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t, it’s really script dependent.

One trick that @dewb has mentioned to me was actually stripping out the call for a midi clock tick and actually replacing that with a call for a midi note, thus you could set up a clock by sending one midi note per beat. But again, this would be script dependent.

I’ve not been able to find any way of really linking the midi clock of external sources to the Norns in a reliable way.

Yep… but I don’t think it solves the “norns wants a midi device to be USB” problem.

My comment above was that you’d need to write that MIDI-OSC stuff in the specific norns lua script - or probably the better solution is to create a library that makes that happen.

So yeah - but no. All of norns MIDI device management is based on the USB subsystem and not looking specifically at aconnect or amidi or whatever. Thus, you could have a system or virtual device in aconnect but it wont be “visible” to the norns stack.

So MIDI clock - works like a champ. MIDI devices are another story

Clocks - there is a new system-wide Clock module but no one has really used it yet. I had problems with trying to make a demo with it and have been meaning to get back to it. Maybe I’ll have time to look at that while I have downtime on a train or two in the coming weeks.

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