#366

Norns works this way on paper. There’s a clock that scripts can opt into, and it’s syncable to external midi. In the future the UI for this is likely to get more standardized (and the API more flexible and performant, thanks to @artfwo’s coroutine work.) But scripts are always going to be free to ignore any notion of a system clock or interpret it in unusual ways. The norns library will never have the same consistency of behavior as a more intentionally designed module library like orac. (The system should make it easier for developers who want to be consistent to implement that choice, however.)

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#367

Orac modules can totally ignore the system clock too

Edit:
Sounds to me like the only difference, is that orac had the system clock from day #1, so modules used it.
But it came later to norns so it’s just a matter of scripts being updated to use ( where applicable).

Fair enough, these things evolve,
I’ve a similar situation with the concept of a common transport - I need to add this now, but that will require me to retrospectively add to modules.

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#368

What you want to do with irregular/time-varying clocks is a different problem than normal MIDI clock sync use cases, where any drastic timing changes are assumed to be aberrations and the user expectation is that the system will smooth out those aberrations.

I think it’s possible that the core clock system could eventually grow to cover the arbitrary-midi-note use case, but there’s a lot of other ground to cover first. In the meantime the scripting system makes it very straightforward to create this behavior on a script-by-script basis.

Ultimately the script is a better place to accurately capture the musical intent of the designer rather than trying to bake too much generalized intelligence and assumptions in the hopes it covers everything!

#369

As I get further in to the Norns, I find that I’m in the deep sea. So, while I learn to swim (through those great Lua tutorials you forwarded my way) I’ll let the tide take me.

If anything, learning all the ways to get this thing to communicate to my meager collection of knick knacks has proven to be an addiction all its own.

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#370

If anyone is in the market for a powerbank for their Fates, this looks like a good deal - https://slickdeals.net/f/13475563-anker-powercore-26800-pd-w-30w-power-delivery-portable-charger-68-free-s-h

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#371

Congratulations on the launch, mate!

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#372

Its aliiiiiveee :smiley: very easy build. Took like 1 hour.The pi4 stays at 60c - 70c max with no cooler or heatsink. Will install a heatsink soon :slight_smile:
The case i made it myself (i didn’t find matte acrylic).
Thanks @okyeron i`ll buy 1 more pcb later.
Made a little update on the case for the USB and ETHERNET ports. I can post it if anyone shows interest (with 3 or 4 pot holes)

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#373

Ordered a board today. Cannot wait to butcher the good old diy norns for parts. Speaking of parts: does anyone know of any good soft click pushbuttons that would fit on the fates board? My current DIY-buttons are very small and a bit to clicky for my taste.

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#374

NeverMind. Apparently I thought I was ordering a full kit but just got the pre soldered board.

This is why you don’t order things while in the middle of moving.

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#375

The BOM lists a “Quiet” version of the MEC 5G switch as an alternate part. It’s nearly silent.

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#376

full kit + case should be here tomorrow! can’t wait. @okyeron you’ve done such a fantastic job with this project, i’m super impressed. even the time between ordering and shipping was super fast. well done, man! :clap:

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#377

So i almost ordered a partial kit but i cant because your shop only accept’s credit cards. Here in the Netherlands it’s not “normal” to have one. Is there any plan in the near future to support more paying options? Such as Paypal?

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#378

Was there an email about kits that already went out? I did express interest on the site but didn’t receive any notice so far.

#379

Apologies for this. For the moment, PayPal will not be an option through the shop. But I’ll DM you to discuss options.

I’m slowly notifying people who had signed up via the contact form on my shop as I have kits available (in order of when they contacted me).

I can only get a handful ready each day so it’s slow going (testing each board, soldering the usb power jacks, etc). Turns out making kits and all the rest is very time consuming and this is just a side project for me, not a full time job. :slight_smile:

I will be sending out an update email to everyone on my contact list later this weekend.

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#380

It totally is, I agree! I was just surprised by the posts mentioning them already—people gettin’ giddy! Thanks for the heads up. :slight_smile:

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#381

I mean, not to be a total dork but I am beside myself at the thought of finally breaking into the norns ecosystem. Its almost on par with getting your first modular gear. I have an old 64grid that a friend recently gave me that hasnt been used, plus about 45 other ways that I am dying to implement it. I think its going to very much change/imrpove my workflow and i cannot wait.

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#382

what techniques have u folks been using to solder the dac ?

#383

I put a bit of solder on the 4 corner pads. I then align the DAC on to the pads, making sure it’s properly aligned. I then carefully heat up those 4 pads, so the corners attach. Once it’s secure, I put a good bit of flux on both sides, all along the pins. Next, I have my chisel tip on my soldering iron, and I dab a very small amount of solder on the dip. With the soldered tip, I smoothly run my solder across the pins. The flux helps transfer the solder to the pins. I run it back and forth (like a paint brush, not pushing any pins around, but instead running over them). Adding small amounts flux and continuing to go back and forth to make sure it is evening between all pins and pads. I do the same on the other side, do an inspection to make sure all pins are connected to their respective pads and nothing else (especially each other!). Then, a good cleaning with rubbing alcohol and you’re on your way!!! There’s a lot of great YouTube videos that help with the visual portion of it.

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#384

Just finished my Fates yesterday (case still WIP). Actually this was my first soldering project ever (apart from fixing some guitar jacks years ago) and it went way more smoothly than I expected.

Many thanks to everyone around here who made this possible and to @reijo for the help and guidance with building the project! :slightly_smiling_face:

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#385

One thing to keep in mind is that the dac legs will heat up basically instantly when your iron touches them which makes it easy to only apply the small amount of solder needed