Hi!
Im having some issues with both of my fates on start up if my grid / arc ar connected.
Dots screen shows up, but then norns wont load until i unplug all my monome devices.
Happens with both grid/arc at the same time, or independently.
Any ideas?
Cheers

known issue, you need to unplug and then boot

Thanks!
Hopefully will be fixed on a future update, cheers

To clarify - are you taking about the midi devices on startup issue? Or was there something else specifically with Monome devices?

sorry if it’s misleading was referring to this: [quote=“okyeron, post:551, topic:22999”]

I think someone mentioned this up above, but when I have two USB things plugged into my Fates before it’s turned on, I’ve received a supercollider fail message.

I think I posted a fix for this above? Or you will need to do a git pull. But then you need to replace a norns source file to get compile working. (I can walk you thru that. Need to write a script for this)

Immediate solution is to unplug your midi devices when you boot.
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I have this problem with more than one usb midi device plugged ( have not tried the mentioned fix above) and today i was having it with the grid and arc.
Thanks

It’s turned up, but actually looking at the mix page is somewhat enlightening in that it looks like there’s no levels at all (L/R etc), despite being cranked. What specifically is that page measuring?

MIX page - There should be VU level meters for inputs and outputs (if you have audio going in or out). Others are just level amounts for monitor, engine, softcut and tape. (See norns docs for more)

From what you’ve posted so far I have no idea what might be happening. If you can post VERY detailed info on what you’re doing to test, etc then I can try to help.

For the moment I’d suggest to go back and reflow all your solder joints.

@wedgemere perhaps a low level test…

try the following:

first stop jack, so we can gain access to soundcard

sudo systemctl stop norns-jack.service 

now use aplay to play a wave file.

aplay ~/dust/audio/common/waves/01.wav 

the above is a simple clean bell tone, is this what you hear? is it clean?

(you might want to try other longer wav files, with clean tones if its difficult to tell with such a short file)

ps.
don’t worry about SR message, its just its not got resampling, if you want resampling you can use
aplay -D plughw dust/audio/common/waves/01.wav

pps. after test, just reboot fates to get norns back working…

Yeah, I can hear that loud and clear! (levels on the mix page don’t seem to be affected by it though)

You mean levels in norns mix?
No they would not affect it, aplay uses levels defined by alsa - so defined by amixer

Anyway if this is clear and not having issues you described earlier, then your issue is somewhere in jack, supercollider or norns.
(The hardware is ok)

I ended up reflashing and I had the same issue, but rebooting from the command line seems to have fixed it.

you usually need to power cycle once after launching SC for the first time on a fresh system. this is because of a stupid thing in SC configuration sequence.

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Yeah only now—with nothing changed—it’s not working again. I’ll try resets and updates from here I guess. See if I can get it going again and try to figure out what the difference is.

ok well then i will let you dig deeper

I can only test the main outs by plugging a headphone into them, until I get the proper cables. But they sound good, no nasty noise, just the sound from awake (very quiet?) and a slight noisefloor. I’ll take photos of my soldering when I get a chance, real life is catching up to me unfortunately.
I tried to check the 220r’s, but it seemed like I couldn’t get steady contact with my multimeter. It jumped up suddenly to around 200, but I couldn’t get it to stay. Seems fine?

For the 220R’s I meant to check the soldering.

You could jump back a few posts and do the test that @TheTechnobear mentioned and see if the general audio system is working properly or not. If it is, then the problems are in norns-software-land somewhere

What sort of audio cables does peiple use with their Fates? Need some good(since local supply is scarce) 3,5mm to 1/4” cables.

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I was gonna ask the same question. I’ll probably end up with some mono adapters, but dedicated cables would be nice, especially ones in different colors so they’re easy to distinguish from each other.

I use a pair of these with my Pico Input from Erica Synths:

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I have been using these https://hosatech.com/products/analog-audio/stereo-breakouts/hosa-breakouts/cmp-150/ (but just from the headphone out since it’s stereo) I’d like to get some good 3.5mm to 1/4" mono cables, too.

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