hahahaha, revealed!!!

can the forum be upgraded to the latest version of discourse? version 1.5 was released at the beginning of april, and it promises several very necessary, significant speedups.

in particular, lines is barely usable on mobile browsers even with a fast, modern multicore phone. whether signed in or not, the stack takes several seconds just to display the front page content.

Always used it on my phone and had absolutely no problem. It’s the fastest and the best smartphone browser interface I’ve ever used for a forum so this is very strange to read! All the pages display in 1 second, it adapts in responsive with no issue whatsoever. I can’t actually think of a single problem I’ve ever had with it and that’s VERY rare for me to say that regarding to web interfaces. Anyhow, thought I should mention it.

we’re at 1.6 here.

and that’s surprising about your mobile experience. i use it regularly on an old iphone 5 without much frustration, and i’m very impatient. using google chrome.

good to know about the latest version. i’m also on chrome, on a nexus 5. this slow loading experience has been the case since rolling out lines. i found a few posts here on mobile slowness, and a whole bunch more at discourse itself, but no concrete solutions or explanations. the few exceptionally unhelpful posts, by discourse upstream, that i’ve found are concerned with old, unsupported android versions and VMs.

the most useful, recent pointers indicate the problems may lie mostly with the emberJS framework that discourse uses, but there’s still no workaround. switching to iOS, as upstream discourse tells everyone to do, is not really a solution. at this point, i’m stumped, but still continuing to investigate.

i have no noticeable problem using chrome on android. asus nexus 7 / samsung galaxy s6. chrome 50.0.whatever, android 6.0.whatever, on both.

at the moment my ping times on 4g are about 70ms.

of course exernal APIs can be another story. soundcloud in particular.

indeed; soundcloud in particular, and the embeds in general, greatly increase page loads. that’s even true to some extent on the desktop. but the front page list of topics is the slowest thing, by far. takes 8 seconds to finish loading, and it’s not threaded to start displaying as it trickles in–it’s everything at once, all or nothing.

the long, infinite-scrolling multi-hundred-post threads are also painful to wade through, on mobile especially but also the desktop. i wish discourse offered paginated layouts, to limit the sheer weight of the JS reply fetching. infinite scrolling is not a user-friendly feature.

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infinite scrolling is not a user-friendly feature.

totally agree there.

ut the front page list of topics is the slowest thing, by far. takes 8 seconds

for me it is about 4s with the above-mentioned ping times. i blame gravatar.

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I also see dramatic increase in load time for pages that contain multiple Soundcloud OR videos embedded. Using Safari on my iPad.
In fact some pages i do not even try to open anymore, like the latest videos page, because it chokes completely.

My iPad is simply to old for these things and tends to freeze since I accidentally did an OS update (but got better with the actual one) so I would not open video threads either - things like the GIF thread on muffwiggler go even worse, takes hours to load and nothing moves…

But apart from this I find the lines to be pretty straight and fast moving on all my devices.

No obvious slowdown or other issues here with Chrome on a Nexus 5. Or Safari on an old Macbook Pro. I’ve come to quite appreciate Discourse as a forum platform having mainly been used to phpBB which I find a bit painful.

Not really a fine tuning thing, but this new orange line has started popping up. Unless I’m missing something, I can’t really tell what it’s supposed to signify, as it doesn’t divide new replies, new posts, date/time.

It seems to imply a ‘sticky’ area above it, but it’s not that either as it moves around and has regular posts above it.

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I think it’s new posts since you last visited… maybe? I’ve seen it as well.

I guess that’s it. Just seems redundant with the ‘unread’ little blue dots, and the ‘new’ thread stuff.

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Yup that’s it. It’s funny seeing how many other people have responded to it seeming like a bug.

My first response was to try to grab and move it, then I reloaded to see if ‘the bug would go away’.

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I think it IS buggy. Because it doesn’t move between visits.

But that’s the thing about Jeff. He has very strong UX opinions and it’s nearly impossible to debate him on the topic. That doesn’t mean he’s always wrong. He’s right more often than not. But in those other cases, his attitude can be frustrating.

It’s (by a million miles) the best forum software I’ve encountered, but that in particular doesn’t make any sense to me, given the other visual indicators.

That’s why I don’t sweat the small stuff (much).

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The orange line has a new feature, the label ‘last visit’ in the middle. Yes!! :slight_smile: