Ooooooh, basically if I’ve used it as a passthrough device! Honestly, that might end up being more trouble than it’s worth. Part of the problem is that midi channel reception is handled on a per-script basis on the Norns. So like, maybe you could define which channel you want those signals to come through? I don’t know, honestly.

i know. is just that i have this uc33 since i was 15 and it always work for me anytime! plus, it actually act as a passthrough device for my octatrack and ableton (working smootly). as @okyeron found out, uc33 shows up on a computer as two devices: port 1 and port 2. usb is handled form n1 and din port from number 2 as i assume from tweaking from ableton, but norns only see port 1!

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Hi
I was wondering if the headphone jack of the Norns can handle a DT770 250 ohm? Or better to use a DT770 80 ohm

Who is using Norns + OP-Z?
Any nice sweet spots or challenges?

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i use this combo a lot… so far i haven’t found anything that didn’t work as expected. mostly i use the z to get sounds into fun norns apps. and mainly that because the z is even smaller than the op-1. i still can’t believe how tiny the z is and norns too. crazy power that basically fits in my coat pocket if i want it to. also, both being battery powered of course makes a great pair out and about.

i’ve been performing out with norns sending midi from loom into the z, so i can use the z synth engines. stock z cable, straight out of norns… couldn’t be better!

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i have both and mainly use my z as an alt control scheme for cheat codes

it’s insanely deep

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I have a non-pro beatstep sitting around because it’s not worth selling and i was pleased to find that for a recent performance, it was the perfect little generic encoder box for me and norns - mapped it to filter & level on each MLR track and it was grand

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I have been using the OP-Z with cheat codes and grid as well. Such a killer combo!

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i’m interested in a poly synth that can assign separate midi channels to different voices, thinking it would be a very fun pairing with norns. any good options in the <$600 range?

@hghrlearning, not sure if this would be overkill, but the Arturia Keystep Pro would fit the bill.

@rennerom oh sorry, i should’ve worded it better but looking to sequence with norns and send out to multiple channels of a synth. keystep does not have built in synth engines that i’m aware of, is that true?

Aha, I see. @hghrlearning yes, you’re right, Keystep has zero built in synth engines.

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I’m a little late to this party, but, is the audio input actually stereo as well?

Digitone is great with Norns!

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I own a Nord Rack 2X, endless fun, robust manufacturing, and sounds amazing.
20 voices. 4 part multitimbral.
You can get one for less than 500€ here in Europe.
Haven’t tried it with my norns yet but it should be fun with scripts like Kria and others.

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I’m on this norns + OP-Z combo and intend to stick with it. For audio i find the audio signal from OP-Z headphone jack into norms to be weak (low umph) and low volume too. I don’t have a hardware mixer or another device between them. Anyone else? Would a better cable be a remedy? I use some thin 3.5mm jack noodle :ramen: I had laying around.

I’ve started to use USB audio between the two (since i use USB cable for MIDI anyway), which helps. I wrote a little norns program called Connect-OPZ for convenience, if it is interesting for anyone.

This setup also frees up my norns audio input, so i can sample dorky autotuned animals from YouTube (or whatever) on my smartphone lol.

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Do you just connect with an audio cable and turn the OP-Z all the way up? And do you do some boosting on the norns side or something? I find the signal to be a bit weak from OP-Z to norns, and my sounds are really quite different when I connect the headphones directly to OP-Z (and have volume really as low as possible, close to mute), vs connecting headphones to norms and OP-Z at full volume to norns input.

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Yes. Me.

The “issue” is that norns is designed to take a +4dBu signal while a lot of devices only output at +0dBu.

All of this is due to the fact that line level is not one clear standard but more a collection of them.

You’d need a line-level preamp (a regular mic preamp would be sub-optimal due to impedance mismatch) such as the one found on a mixer.

EDIT: There are also dedicated boxes w/ fixed gain called line-level shifters that also enforce the signal to be balanced.

@zebra proposed this patch allowing the boosting of the input gain. There is also an open discussion on making this feature standard.

See also: my original analysis.

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strange, i never noticed anything funky with the levels… i just do audio out on the z from a 3.5mm to quarter inch splitter cable. but generally i guess I’m running norns out to some sort of powered speaker which also has a gain control, so maybe its just that i’m boosting the signal after its already out of norns…

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OP-z has a stereo output im assuming so using a trs 3.5 to two 1.4 tr into the 2 inputs on the monome might provide more volume then a adapter thats loosing one of the stereo outputs.