#187

My choice is the JBL Charge 3.

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#188

Iā€™ve been thinking about grabbing a small keyboard monosynth (monologue?) for a live rig Iā€™m planning around Norns. Iā€™m curious if anyone knows if the synth and keyboard can be ā€œdecoupledā€, ie keyboard sends midi data to Norns, synth engine controlled by midi data from Norns.

#189

Separate midi channels perhaps?

It may depend on the specific keyboard if it can do a ā€œlocal offā€ (but that likely just disables the keyboard entirely).

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#190

The Sub37 lets you individually turn on/off keyboard ā€”> midi out and keyboard ā€”> synth. Other OEMs may be doing something similar.

Iā€™ve tried the set up you describe with Sub37 usb -> Norns and Norns -> Sub37 din (so using two ports on Norns), and it seems to work. I havenā€™t tried going into and out of a single channel (ie either usb or din) as I would need to modify the code Iā€™m working with, so I donā€™t know if/how that would affect the dynamic.

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#191

just to confirm, when you press a key on the sub37, it doesnā€™t (directly) play a note with the sub37, but you can still ā€œaccessā€ the note with norns.

#192

Just confirmed this on my monolouge.

There is a setting Local SW under Global that will decouple the keyboard from the synth and still output midi, likewise the synth will still respond to incoming midi data

thanks for the interesting idea!

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#193

Awesome! If you get up to anything cool with it, please share.

The reason I started thinking about it is the ability to quantize against various things in Norns for a live set (ie midi to the synth engine quanitzed to softcut phase for in time looping/sound generation)

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#194

This looks like it could be a very useful ā€œfriendā€ of Norns: Befaco VCMC ā€” Voltage Controlled Midi Controller. From description:

VCMC is a voltage controlled MIDI controller.
A fully editable MIDI controller with eight faders and push buttons. Each of them with a CV or Gate input associated to automate their functioning via external signals or to be configured independetly for further control.
Each control on VCMC can be edited on its OLED screen and will be output either via DIN-5 or USB as a class compilant MIDI device.

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#195

I was able to run a few tests tonight with the Sub37 local control turned off. I created a simple norns script to catch the incoming keyboard note and randomly modify the note value and return it to the synth to be played. The Sub37 only plays the modified note and there is no noticeable lag between keypress and note on. I tried using separate communication ports (i.e. out of Sub37 USB and into Sub37 DIN) and in/out of only the Sub37 USB port; both work (caveat below) in the same fashion.

Weirdness; Repeatedly pressing a key returns random notes to the Sub37 synth as expected, but the Sub37 ignores every second note off message so the note hangs until another note on overtakes. This appears to be a Sub37 thing and not a Norns thing or coding issue since midi pass through from the Sub37 DIN is received by Yarns correctly (i.e. it perceives every note on and note off as expected, regardless of what the Sub37 synth does). Unfortunately I have no other midi keyboards or synths to confirm this is unique to the Sub37 and this set up.

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#196

I have a Midifighter Twister, and I suppose this would apply to other similar MIDI controllers as well. Say Iā€™m controlling a parameter that Iā€™ve mapped to a CC on a scriptā€¦ well if I turn the knob on the Midifighter Twister, that changes the parameter that itā€™s mapped to on norns, and thatā€™s perfect. The problem is that if I change the parameter on norns using its encoder, it does not return the CC message to the controller. I would expect it to be able to do that, so that I can see the current value on the Midifighter Twister no matter what.

Also, it would be quite useful if when loading a preset on norns, it would send the current values to the Twister at the point that the preset is recalled. Is there any particular reason that norns doesnā€™t have that feature at this time, and is that part of the future plan?

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#197

no, the mapping feature doesnā€™t include 2-way bindings.

it would not be hard to hack this into a script as first step - (have parameter action send to mapped device, if present)

introspecting and managing 2-way binding devices in an automatic way seems non-trivial but it could happen.

b/c such features are driven by volunteer contributions. seems like a lot of happy midifighter users out there so itā€™s worth asking for.

(iā€™m not sure i even have any midi encoder controller on hand that would support 2-way bindings - seems pretty ā€˜nu-skoolā€™)

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#198

Hi, Does anybody know a nice small microphone with line level outputs? It would be ideal companion to Norns, most mics require a separate preamplifier

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#199

I use my zoom H2n as a mic :slight_smile:

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#200

I use a small field recorder as my Norns mic. this one.

#201

Hadnt thought of the recorder route, duh, - but makes a neat solution

#202

zoom h4n here, works handily (and can be had cheaply <$100, used)

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#203

I got a white ENEBY 20 last week, to use as a bedroom speaker for music/norns, and I have to say that I am thoroughly impressed. Will probably use this for small room solo shows as well. What an absolutely wonderful(and pretty) speaker. Will never replace my Carlsson Ortho-Acoustic living room setup, but as a smaller portable speaker I am in absolute awe.

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#204

Iā€™ve got one as well. Feels really well made too.

Itā€™s for use in my garage (so I can stream music etc.) and it looks a little too pretty amidst all the tools etc. :smile:

#205

Has anyone tried the Sensel Morph with Norns? I see mention of it in this thread, but no reports of how well it works.

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#206

I think the reason thereā€™s no report on how well it works might be linked to the fact thereā€™s no clear MPE support for norns which would link you to this thread instead (and sensei morph without MPE loses at least some advantages it might have over other controllers I guess ?) :

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