The FaderFox EC4 has become a great friend of this (DIY fates) norns, particularly now that we can midi map AUDIO Params.

Bonus feature: It handles MIDI DIN in and out so long as you mind your channels/routing modes. I use a TRS cable from EC4 to another FaderFox for basic host-to-host midi connections.

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what’s that keyboad? i just realized that no bluetooth keyboards excludes usb dongles. trying to get one that will fit on my desk without feeling like an ipad keyboard

There are two modes. TAB is class compliant, COMP requires a driver.

It’s an older iPazzPort mini keyboard; it’s… OK… ā€˜cheap & cheerful’ with a spongy ā€˜keybed’ and useless laser pointer but it’s about 5 years old and still serves its function.You can maybe see its wireless receiver nub at the top-right of the fates/norns. Plug in and go.

This looks like the closest ā€˜modern’ version by iPazzPort.
The Rii X1 2.4G looks almost identical.

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nice, i was actually about to order a similar one two days ago but the delivery was delayed until the end of april. looks like the same thing applies to these. i guess prime shipping means nothing in a global pandemic. thanks for the recc

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I want to connect a USB midi controller (Faderfox) to control two Norns. Possible ?

Can you get a cheap 1 in/1 out USB-MIDI adapter, like the ones discussed recently above? The FaderFox should be sending the same messages out to both the USB port and the MIDI out port.

Faderfox USB >> Norns A
Faderfox MIDI Out >> MIDI IN on the USB adapter >> Norns B

(edit to add: This is for 4th generation FaderFox units; Gen 3 only has USB, gen 1 and 2 only have MIDI DIN)

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I’ve got some AtMega32U4’s on hand that I plan to make a USB-Midi dongle from. Would be interested to see your code…

Anyone tried their Norns or Norns Shiled with Novation Launch Control or Arturia Beatstep?
Can Norns successfully power them over USB? I’m looking to expand my control options for Norns shiled and looking into readily acessible options since overseas delivery are kinda no go right now.

I’ve plugged a beatstep pro into Norns and it did work fine. Power wasn’t an issue.

the fates powers my nanokontrol and launchpad pro no problem

A shoutout to an old friend and perfect norns companion - the novation SLmkii series controllers. They’re great controllers (if a tad bulky) and secretly a MIDI interface. I had been using them for years and meticulously made templates for different gear but just realized last night if I attach norns via USB then not only does norns get access to faders, pots, encoders, buttons (and a fatar keybed on the keyed versions), but it also equips norns with bidirectional DIN midi! Now it’s super easy to clock and sequence norns, or have norns sequence other gear.

I’ve got the zero key and 61 key version and bought each for 100$ or less as they’re not the sexy new thing anymore.

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Novation seems to pack a bunch of handy stuff in their affordable gear. I held onto my Ultranova for several years just because it was usb-powered and had audiointerface built in, it was just so simple to plug-in a single cable into a laptop and have both audio out and a controller.

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wow, i should have looked for one of these before going with the nanokontrol2. nice one

3d printed USB/HID dual footswitch with a little library to map the HID codes to norns buttons.

Here controlling Pools

The footswitch is based on this guide from adafruit. I’ve just added a second switch and wired it into the same Trinket M0 microcontroller. The Trinket can do 4 switches, so maybe a larger one is next? :slight_smile:

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I finally had a chance to polish this a bit. In the end I simplified and moved away from I2C in favor of Serial (TX/RX). It’s bi-directional meaning you can use with Arduino for input or output and change on the fly (contrary to the arrows in the image).

I’ve put the code up on Github and here’s a video showing it in action with Ableton Live, an Organelle, and Norns/Fates. I’d be keen for anyone with some Pro Micros (or 32u4 compatible boards) to test and report back so I can squash bugs.

Eventually I plan on making a PCB and enclosure to make the whole thing a bit more compact.

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Excellent. More foot power for folks whose hands are encumbered (e.g., guitar).

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I’d like to ask about MIDI mapping the Norns - will something like the Faderfox EC4 be able to control Norns without value jumps? Are the mappings saveable on Norns?

Yes with caveats. I use the EC4 with a mix of absolute and relative encoders. Something like main volume I prefer absolute to see the current value on the EC4 screen, whereas relative encoders don’t show useful feedback.

  1. Set encoder type on EC4 to CCR2
  2. Set ā€œaccumā€ to ā€œyesā€ on Norns mapping screen

Notes:

  1. The very first time you move the knob after mapping it the value will jump to 0 (if accum is on), or 49/51 if it hasn’t been turned on yet. If you have a ā€˜sweet spotā€ value, take note first.

  2. Saving: I save the script state, including mappings, as a PSET. If there’s another reliable way that I’ve missed, I’m all ears.

  3. Note on mapping the global clock tempo: Whatever bpm you have the mapping screen clock encoder set to in the PSET will be the starting point for the encoder, NOT the actual global clock value at the time you switch to mapped script. If you have 140 bpm in one script and then switch to another script that was saved with the encoder mapped and pset 1 saved at bpm 50, turning the encoder will jump values to start from bpm 50. The accumulation starting value (state?) is saved with the pset.

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So, it sounds like when loading a preset/saved patch, there will be no value jumps for each and every controlled value? Thanks for the info!