#454

or change it to a latching button, and then change it to:

IF G.BTN.V #: TR.P #
G.BTN.V # 0

this way you just arm it, don’t need to hold and no multiple triggering.

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#455

OK, here’s another one. So I want to trigger a few 2 to 10 bar samples within a ER301 in a Ableton Live fashion.

Would you use Faders in DOT mode or Groups of buttons and utilize the Switch function? I think both could be made to work.

Also, if any of you are 301 jockey’s, which Sample player do you think it best suited for this function? I’ve done similar things in the past, but I’m not settled on the best way to do it… Was going to experiment with the Clocked Player.

#456

i would go with a coarse dot fader, it’ll work/look like radio buttons but you don’t have to do the switching (and you could use fader slides for some interesting effects!). but yeah, either way works. button switching can be useful when you have a block of buttons, for instance.

(it’s been a while since i used teletype with er-301 to trigger samples, so this might not apply anymore) if you’re also controlling pitch or something else you might need to add a slight (~5ms iirc) delay to the trigger (super easy to do on the er-301 side, you can just use a fixed delay unit for that with wet set to 100%).

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#457

just posted a preliminary documentation for the upcoming teletype 3.0 release: Teletype 3.0

among other things it includes a much more expanded documentation on grid ops. not a full replacement for grid studies (still planning to go over those / edit / expand) but should hopefully clarify a few things.

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#458

@scanner_darkly

question–using start and end on grid control mode (which is incredible!) has the dots on the side be the length of your start/end block. using ctrl+l makes the length of the numbers bold-er. are these doing two different things?

Position 2 is the end position using grid control mode. Position 4 was ctrl+l’d

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#459

yeah, it’s a bit confusing. each pattern has start/end/length. end and length are actually 2 different parameters (some explanation here: Teletype 3.0). the dotted lines reflect the block between the start and end positions. length is shown by the brighter font.

when you use the grid control mode setting the end will also update the length - this is done so that you can use grid to define loop points (if you’re implementing a sequencer using P.NEXT, for instance). the reason for this is that P.NEXT will wrap when it reaches either the end or the length, whichever happens earlier. so if it didn’t update the length this wouldn’t work.

i really think it should be streamlined, but it would be a breaking change and deserves a separate topic and discussion. perhaps i should just add another button to set the length separately.

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#460

the way I’m thinking of using it is more or less the looping pattern sequences (as an alternative to what I’ve been doing where a knob on TXi is mapped to a small range of values and sets a P.L).

I also very often use patterns as a fixed voltage bank (i.e. sequences of length 1). It would be cool if you could hold the start and end buttons simultaneously and then tap one of the pattern positions to set both start and end for that particular position (tried a few different combos and could not come up with something that would do that in one go)

I personally can’t think of a reason where I’d want to have different P.L vs. P.END - P.START, or a reason I’d want to set P.L (as opposed to P.END) within the control mode.

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#461

good idea, i’ll add it to my list of future improvements!

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#462

This might be a silly question, but as I don’t know I guess I’ll have to put this out there.

I recently bought a Grid and was planning on using it exclusively with the Teletype, but as time goes on I started thinking of getting an Ansible (I will get an ARC when they return to stock) and I was wondering if I had the Grid attached to the Ansible and the Ansible connected via i2c to Teletype would Grid Ops communicate with the Grid as though it were attached to the Teletype? Or is the Grid Ops integration exclusively for having the Grid attached to the Teletype?

#463

no, grid ops don’t work over i2c. grid must be connected to teletype (powered externally, of course).

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#464

So in a sense the Ansible is not necessary in the Teletype/Grid setup?

#465

Anisble is not necessary. Ansible is running its own software without knowledge of the fact it’s connected to Teletype. The grid ops are just new code for Teletype. Teletype’s connections generally flow outward, not both ways. So you can do a lot to send influence to other things and use grid ops as a way to control those influences, but the receivers do not have a way to actively respond to Teletype or the grid attached to it.

#466

to expand a bit, ansible runs on its own, but can be controlled from teletype (via app specific ops, so we have kria ops, meadowphysics ops etc) or can be used as a teletype CV expander (so you get extra 4 CV and 4 trigger outputs).

ansible is not required for grid/teletype integration.

but grid/teletype integration is great for creating teletype scenes that serve as meta controllers for ansible (or trilogy modules). so you could have one grid connected to ansible running kria, for instance, while another (perhaps smaller) grid could be used with teletype to execute additional kria commands.

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#467

working on a new grid scene. the idea is to have 16 vertical faders that can be used to control 16 different parameters. you get 2 presets, and then morph between them with another horizontal fader. you can also step through morphing with a clock.

i’ll post the scene in the grid exchange thread once i add a couple more things (i want to change direction to ping-pong as it makes more sense, add variable slew, the ability to temporarily pause the clock and to set all fader values at once).

video demos:

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#468

Wow, looks great - I love the morphing feature! :heart_eyes:

Would it be possible to rotate the whole thing to a horizontal mode to use 8 sliders with 16 step resolution on a 128 grid? It surly is possible to program but would would it be easily possible coming from that scene, for those who are not too familiar with the grid ops ?

#469

Very cool. Do you ever sleep?!

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#470

i’ll provide instructions on how to modify the scene to achieve this. to clarify, the scene is using fine faders with 208 steps, not 16.

between the guy who yells obscenities outside at 2am (two nights in a row now), and seagulls that start screaming at 5am this week hasn’t been great for sleep…

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#471

Great concept! Looks really useful. What happens when you change a fader value but aren’t on either end of the preset-morphing spectrum? Does it set the value for the end it’s closer to?

#472

it will just update the current value for that fader but if you press on the crossfader it’ll get reset to what it should be according to the position. this is a nice way to manually change values when you need to. i also thought of doing something mutable frames like where you could define additional points but not sure i can manage to fit it into 8 scripts. maybe a couple of additional points though…

thanks for starting the thread on er-301 forum, i’ll post there when i get a chance!

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#473

Holy shoot. I just went through the studies on grid integration. Even for those who don’t own a grid, the visual feedback from grid mode is very handy. Looking forward to the completion of the studies (e.g. faders) and taking the time to absorb them. Thank you @scanner_darkly.

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