checking again to see if people have more thoughts on the CB Generation Loss, now that it’s in stock and more available. the demos seem really cool but also like maybe the sweet spots are narrow?
t3h
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Oh that’s a tough one. So far this has been my least favoured of the GenLoss pedals but that’s probably just my weird taste and I haven’t put in the work to own the sound so I probably would have to report back later. I miss two things in particular: exact regulation of the noise mix and the low-pass-filter to high-pass-filter configuration. At the same time it offers the widest sound palette and sounds the most similar to a typical guitar effect pedal with the exiting and cut-trough sound. If that’s your thing but so far I do prefer the soft and malleable sound of Cooper Fx mk2.
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sweet spots in terms of the typical gen loss sounds are a little narrow, i’ve found. tiny amounts of wow/flutter/saturation seem the sweetest. i have found however the eq models to be unbelievably useful and creatively invigorating - worth it for those alone!
I picked it up sorta on a whim and without previous experience with its predecessors. I was bummed when the demos came up after my pre-order showing the aliasing and bass loss but those problems were addressed as my unit shipped so all good.
But my hype had cooled by arrival and I was expecting to demo it for a while then pass it on but I’ve been really pleasantly surprised. The mono in stereo out feature with subtle saturation is really worth while for me. Also blending the eq models in parallel with a dry signal can be nice. So I’m using it subtly, I’m happy, and I sense there’s more to explore.
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mateo
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Thanks for posting this, I had picked up the cooper Fx version and then felt a bit frustrated when the CB version came out with stereo I/O, so I’m happy to see there are advantages to the one I have. Perhaps I’ll end up with both eventually…
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I’ve been using it with Rhodes and piano as of recent and, suffice to say, I absolutely adore the pedal. I’m really enjoying the different modes and I personally find the sounds coming out of the mk2 far superior than the initial cb/cfx collab and v2 of the cfx model. The addition of the drop out parameter is a game changer, particularly since that parameter (along with noise) sounds different depending on which mode you’re using. CB paid a lot of attention to this pedal and, in my opinion, it is by far the best gen loss to date.
t3h
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at least for me there are. Cooper FX version has straight (better?) interface and the knobs layout, better MIDI control and (for my taste) better/more flexible sound with wide sweet spots. CBA pros are more options for different lo-fi effects and the sound that can cut well trough the mix. Also, yes the signal path is stereo. Each of their own but I would not sell off the CFX one before getting the CBA version and comparing them sidebyside. These pedals carry the same name but sound very differently.
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Durdee
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I had a low serial number original Gen Loss and loved running drones through it. The Gen Loss 2 (Chase Bliss) is really killing it for me right now. Miso Mode is spectacular. I can definitely say that a cv to MIDI module (I have the Befaco cv thing) is really fantastic for the amount of control I am used to now that I’ve been messing with modular for a few years.
@t3h I cannot recall at the moment which cc# it is but there’s one that controls the level of noise independent from the switch. Just a nice “noise amplitude” control. I use a cv fader to dial it in, and also love looping envelopes into it.
Other favorites are the Strymon Volante and Blue Sky, although I’ve noticed that I need to feed them a hotter signal than most pedals for some reason. Earthquaker Dispatch Master also lends real magic, it’s that dang reverb + delay we love so much.
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I am curious if you or anyone else with the Vongon Paragraphs experience bleed from the gate?
What I mean is that if the gate is triggered, the gate bleeds into the signal. It isn’t the envelope being triggered but the rather the gate the vongon seems to generate internally which appears to be about 10 ms long. It shows up almost with a bump at 15 hz and ripples up 120 hz so I think it is a misbehaving but perhaps it is a design issue.
I’ve tested in isolation, with no signal input, different trigger sources and there is no meaningful change except that the midi input has resulting bleed is much worse, both in volume and frequency band ripples, so it is actually more noticeable with midi than with cv.
I’ve had this issue since I bought a few years ago but just getting around to troubleshoot it as I was moving it around in the setup.
I’ve never personally experienced (or noticed) this with my paragraphs. Is this also happening when you have the Trig switch set to Cycle? Or it is just when triggering via the Trig button and with external CV and MIDI trigs?
Only cv and midi. The cycle is fine. It came be heard when the amount is at zero. Hmm, sounds like I should drop vongon a note and see what they say. Thanks for your input.
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Can I ask a question about the Count to 5?
I don’t see anything in the manual regarding the kind of jack the expression pedal is looking for.
Is it TS or TRS? Is there a recommended expression pedal to use with it?
I tried asking Montreal Assembly but didn’t get an answer…
it has a bit on the expression input. For example, in mode 1:
The “EXP” switch on rev h/i and “E” switch on rev j have identical functionality. In fact, E is just shorthand for EXP which stands for Expression pedal selection switch. If you have an expression pedal plugged in you can assign it to either the DIR 1, LEN B or FBK function using the 3 way switch.
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Thanks. I had seen this but wanted to make sure I was using the right cable to plug the ex-pedal into it in the first place…
Most expression pedals are TRS with the wiper on T. It won’t hurt to plug them into a TS circuit which expects R and S to be shorted.
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Sorry, I read too quickly. It doesn’t seem to specify. I’ve used a cheap Boss pedal that worked fine.
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I’ve bought and sold so many compressors over the years. I don’t use them often other than for some Talking Heads type vibes on guitar. But the one that I have kept for a few years now isn’t going anywhere. The Origin Cali76. Basically a very compact 1176 compressor in a pedal. Not the cheapest one out there. But the only one so far that I haven’t become annoyed with over time.
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rklem
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I feel the same. I have the “Stacked” version, but the Standard Cali76 is probably just as good.
Not sure if this is the right place to post this, but here goes…
I am looking for insights on “guitar synth pedals”.
Not using guitars with synths, but pedals that essentially make a guitar sound like a synth.
I’m eyeing the Boss SY-1 or SY-200, but hoping to learn from the experiences of others.
Thanks!
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Obolus
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My wife uses and adores the Meris Enzo with her electric violin. Might be worth scoping some demo vids.
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