ooooh yes, been waiting for this since I saw it. Se im a midiot - ive always steered as far away from it as I could, and now im finding ive made a very large mistake - I cant wait for this one

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Looks like Boss has a new looper out (or at least coming) confusingly named RC-500.
On paper it seems like a pedal version of their RC-202 tabletop unit, with a few additions and some unexplainable omissions.
In general it looks pretty good, except for the weird choice to relegate the fx in a submenu, forcing you to use the encoder to turn them on an off. Not very playable. The rest is pretty much what you already find in the RC-202, but more geared towards footswitch interaction.
Loopop has it covered in detail:

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boss keeps making strange choices w/ their loopers. I wish they would just get rid of the drum / rhythm tracks and focus on playability.

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I’m 1:30 into the video and they’ve already said 2 things that excite me… the channels can be asynchronous and you can assign an IN/OUT to a particular channel (which is something I could never quite get to work the way I wanted it to on the Ditto X2)…

Yes, definitely. I can see the use of a metronome for some cases, but for anything else you’d want a drum machine (or an actual drummer) anyway.
I also never liked how reverse was hidden in a menu on the RC-505. That’s something I use so much, having in a menu just doesn’t make sense.

That is definitely interesting indeed. The routing thing seems new to me btw.

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c’mon marcus… you know exactly why those beatboxes are in there! :grinning: :v:

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@taylor12k - I guess I just want them to break those canned beats into its own box… you know, like we’ve always dreamed about!
#grinzitup

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Vaclav from Bastl Instruments looks at loopers of all sorts, from basic to more unusual varieties in rather a lot of interesting and inspirational detail here:

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what a great tutorial. Really enjoying the English accent…

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I can only now hear looper or filter as loopererr and filtererrr. There’s so many tricks I want to try with the Thyme after watching that. I’ve had one for years but haven’t really explored the albeit limited looping capabilities that much.

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i’m quite interested in RC-500. To me the phantom power mic in is a big plus to me, most of the ‘lopper with mic in’ pedal in the market has no phantom power.

after watched the demonstration from looppop, i wonder if i can do the following routing:

In A > Out A only
patch the cable from Out A to In B
In B > Out B only

so I can take the Loop A, process it a bit and make new loop in Loop B, or use as a ‘insert’ function (insert would be useful for mic in).

read the manual, the In/Out Settings didn’t mention the actual options on that setting.

I just did some experimenting with my RC-500 and figured out how to configure the pedal to do this:

  • input menu: mic in -> out-A
  • t1 menu: input -> mic; output -> out-A
  • t2 menu: input -> in-B; output -> out-B
  • memory menu: rec > quantize -> “measure” (makes the t2 recording start/stop at the right time)
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I acutally bought it the Aeros Loop Studo, but send it back, because of issues with midi. I will probably buy it again when it’s more mature. To be honest, I didn’t really dive into it, because of the midi issue, and I didn’t want to invest too much time, since I could send it back with full refund. But it has great potential, that’s for sure. But at the current price, a looper should be top notch, I guess. I’ll stick with my 1440 for a while more.

What are the specific midi issues you experienced? I’ve had good luck syncing and stopping/starting playback, but haven’t done anything deeper than that.

My biggest hope is for loop decay. I feel kind of dumb because it seems like such a standard looper feature and I just assumed it would be in there. I’m still pretty happy with it as is. Seems a lot of users are asking about that and reverse play so hoping they can make it happen.

I recently got a 4ms DLD, and I’ve found it to be the best, most flexible and stable looper that I’ve encountered in modular or pedal format. It really sticks to the clock, sounds great, and the ability to dial in and out the delay feed and feedback loop makes it super playable like an instrument. Also it’s known as being an extremely clean sounding delay, but that doesn’t amount to sounding brittle, like some loopers, there seems to be some nice work in the analog section of this looper because it sounds pretty punchy to me and not clean in a sterile way.

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huge DLD fan over here. I only wish it did varispeed, but it handles parallel loops and delays like a rock. Love it!

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Yeah that’s my 1 and only complaint, varispeed. When i want some tape warble i just run it through a chorus or for extreme pitch shifting, Clouds. In Karplus mode it does respond to 1 v/o, so theoretically the pitch should change in that mode… I’ve not tried that though.

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Yeah I never got the Karplus mode to “transpose” a loop by changing its speed because that’s not really what it’s doing—it’s just making the delay time (interval between the repeated impulses in KS synthesis) respond to the v/oct scale. The content of the buffer doesn’t actually change pitch in either case because the circuit resamples it.

It should respond to 1v/oct in all modes IIRC. The Karplus mode you mention is the one on the parasite firmware isn’t it?

There’s no parasite firmware for the 4ms DLD as far as I know—just a v/oct time tracking mode that enables karplus strong synthesis, but still without pitch shifting the content of the delay buffer