my gripe with ehx loopers has been, and apparently still is, that they won’t build a multi-looper that allows you to record additional loops that aren’t tied to the length of the first one you record*. there are without a doubt uses for that for sure…but its prob for this reason alone i’ll take my rang III to the grave with me.

*unless of course, i missed one/something along the way over the years

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update to my earlier addition to the software thread

the software was originally going to be made with karma but I got confused with it so I wrote my own code. If bugs persist it may again be made with karma. It was working enough to make a video demo for my NIME paper though

wonder if someone should actually start a thread

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Being able to map everything to CCs, faders, reverse, 44,1khz sampling, super simple layout, Quantize/Non-quantize, Punch in/out, Midi clock sync, phantom power and multiple types of input… These are ALL features I wish I had in the numerous loopers I bought and gave (yeah, I’m terrible I don’t sell things I just give them away and after I complain that I’m poor). Whenever I have the means to transport more gear, it might convince me to stop looping inside ableton and start looping with a hardware looper again! I’d love that as I really hate to be completely dependant on ableton for live looping…

(Edit: most of the time my problem is, most loopers have 90% of these things and lack 10% of them, and to me, it’s kind of all or nothing, like, no midi clock sync is a no go, no multiple types of input is a no go etc.)

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22500 does 2 independent loops. I believe it’s their only looper with that feature.

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Yeah, the 22500 allows you to have the two tracks either unsynced or synced and with the second one being a multiple of the first one (with a fixed number or “free”).

It’s sad that the new one doesn’t allow that. I guess it’s because of that mixdown track maybe ?
Also, the 22500 does pitch-stable time strech and that one doesn’t, it seems.

I’d love a 22500 with 4 tracks and clock in sync…

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oh, interesting—i think i lost track when they started doing those smaller ones after the 45000 and missed that one completely.

Sorry for bumping an old topic. Didn’t want to start a new thread for this, but given Count to 5 has been mentioned a number of times above I figured I might ask the question here…

Does anyone know if it would be a relatively straightforward mod to add a toggle switch to engage/disengage recording for modes 2 and 3 (i.e. so I don’t need to hold soft switch down to rec)? I did something similar with an old EHX SMMw/H a while back (my soldering skills are pretty basic), but that was following some instructions I’d found online - and I can’t find any similar discussions re. CT5. Would be good to get thoughts from some more knowledgeable folk before I open the pedal up. Is there any practical reason why this wouldn’t be feasible?

Any input appreciated!

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I’ve been enjoying my DL4 for years, no reliability issues so far…

(First ever post on lines)
I thought Scott had made an alternative firmware to do just that.

Found it:


An alternative firmware for rev k and l. (0.941k). This firmware does not have the volume controls for DIR knobs in mode 3 that were added in 0.95 but does change the way the soft footswitch works. Instead of holding the footswitch to record in modes 2 and 3, you press and release it, and recording will start when the button is released. You can stop recording and initiate playback by holding and releasing the button again. Tapping will reset/erase the recording as usual. No change to footswitch behavior in mode 1.

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Perfect… I hadn’t realized there might be alternate firmware to do this. Thanks.

(An excellent first post, in my opinion :slight_smile: )

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Just received my empress reverb in the mail. Their echosystem and reverb have looper modes now. I will report my findings after some use! Yussss

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Bumping this thread. Any looper experiences to share? I’m in the market!

Tempted by the Timefactor on the experimental side, and the Boss 505 on the practical side. Recently looking at the EHX Grand Canyon. Also the Ditto x4.

Ideally would like 2+ loops, ability to decay into a delay, and a few onboard effects.

Thanks!

I love my Pigtronix Infinity Looper, especially with the extra footswitch add on. Lots of options, two loops, easy and useful interface.

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I have both the Ditto X4 and Timefactor.

The Timefactor can get a lot more experimental since you can alter the pitch, direction, decay, and start/end points; it can get into some quasi-granular and glitch territory if that is your thing. I tend not use it very much because I prefer the more straightforward nature of the Ditto X4 for loop layering and prefer the tape delay emulation on the El Capistan.

The DX4 can do asynchronous loops and Frippertronic style sound-on-sound looping, though it lacks the nice degradation of the sound that the El Capistan (or real tape) has. I personally think the sound quality of the Ditto is better if fidelity is your thing. The effects are just OK, half speed can be fun and I like the fade out for, well, fading out.

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I like participating in message boards where this is non-ironic qualifier.

Anyhow, I have the original, tiny Ditto. It’s my only hardware looper, and it works well. The one thing I wish it did (not adding a function, just sorting out the device’s design) is if the clicker didn’t click. It’s quiet, but there’s definitely a click. (I was going to upgrade from the Ditto to something else, but lately mostly been experimenting with the ER-301.)

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my main complaint about my El Cap as well but guitar pedals are guitar pedals. this component is meant to stomped over and over again.

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Yeah, I don’t mind when my overdrive (the OCD) makes noise when I click on it, because it’s intended to be loud. I just use the Ditto for quieter stuff, for better or worse. It’s like the rattle of Elektron gear and the ER-301 interface. You sorta get used to it.

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Do you know that they made a mk2 with soft switches? Sold my mk1 and got mk2 since it’s also way easier to adjust the secondary params when pushing both buttons. Also adds an option for stereo in via trs.

this wasn’t even a thing i thought about until i listened back on a recording (performance or practice) and was like “wow that switch is loud”

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20 chars of i did not know this.