#144

Yeah, I watch a lot of tutorial videos, and the “Elektron clack” is, like, a thing.

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#145

up there with the boss rc chirp, almost nostalgic at this point

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#146

yes :slightly_smiling_face:

#147

Super late, but you’re the only other person I know who uses two Timefactors as loopers, for asynchronous looping, and can appreciate its features. Found your post because I’ve been looking for a software equivalent. The closest thing seems to be Sooperlooper, but I’m considering learning Swift just so I can build an iOS app of multiple Timefactor loopers.

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#148

Nice.
I have not found anything that comes close to the timefactor loopers as far as playability and features go.

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#149

I had heard of the Timefactor and knew that it had a looper, but never actually looked into it before now - it seems like a pedal version of something similar to a Phonogene/Morphagene with regard to real-time varispeed and start point/play length control.

@bachelard & @marcus_fischer does it allow super short/granular looping, or is the minimum play length something more ‘normal’? will it play back suuuuuper slow? I read through the manual and it seems like it’d be my favorite looper pedal ever, but I’m just curious if it can be pushed to degrees that most guitarists wouldn’t likely find useful, in particular tiny bits, stretched wayyy out.

#150

It does very short and very slow.
When you move the start and end points very close you can scrub your sample is a way that sounds a lot like granular sampling.
Fake granular stuff aside, the best part about it for me is that it approximates my tape based workflow at a fraction of the size and with more immediacy.

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#151

That’s exactly what I was looking for! Awesome, thank you :pray:

#152

[anyone really] if you have a chance, it would be super cool to get some kind of run-down of specific use-flow and what kind of interactions make the timefactor more playable for you, approximates tape-based flow,= &c.

mostly wondering for norns/softcut. would like to make some scripts taking advantage of the new engine but without grid. there’s a lot of potential there but people use delay/SOS really differently.

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#153

I’d be really interested in knowing about this as well. Mostly because I have a Timefactor.

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#154

should such a discussion take place right in this thread?

would discussion of specific uses of other similar digital tape-like looping devices make sense, too, or would a Timefactor-specific conversation be more helpful?

v interested in what this could lead to on norns!

#155

I’d be happy to learn more about the timefactor here!

To update my own decision-making from the above, I went with a more straightforward solution for now–an EXH canyon which has some very nice delay modes and a very simple looper mode. Got a good deal on it on a holiday sale. It has pretty intuitive ‘undo’ and a relatively long loop time.

I’m having much joy running it on a send through my mixer and feeding it with various noises. Unfortunately you cannot couple the delay modes into the looper on the Canyon – so I will probably end up running a second delay pedal before it. We’ll see if I miss the asynchronous feature of multiple loops.

I tested the Strymon El Cap as an SOS style looper, it is quite lovely, especially the signature tape decay. I may move that way eventually but I’m happy for now.

#156

Super plus one one a Timefactor disscusion. I have been trying to decide if I could really integrate one, inside my head is a war between the Timefactor and a Tensor pedal.

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#157

I just got a 856 for Zellersasn and enjoying it. It’s more of a sit down and wiggle synth than a typical looper. I got it second hand from a guitarist who loves the Count to 5 but found the 856 too involved, more like a studio instrument than a quick looper - play a loop in, stop playing then play about with the knobs. He didn’t want to play about with knobs too much. It’s definitely more a tabletop type deal. I think it would work really well for studio ambient musicians. I do also own a Count to five,Timefactor, Cocoquantus and 2880. This one definitely has its own flavor.

First impressions are is it’s an expanded version of the mode 3 on the Count to 5. Mode 3 is we’re you play a loop in, that gets duplicated 2 times. You then play with the 3 loop layers settings. The difference is you have access to everything per layer - envelopes, reverse, volume, pitch, gain, offset, loop length, loop speed, loop start. On a Count to 5 you had access to very little - pitch and a switch to switch the layers on/off. It also has a midi in so you can also control all this stuff externally, via a sequencer or keyboard. It’s not a typical looper, as it does it’s own thing, in a very specific way, so may not be for everyone.

What it does with pitched repeats is pretty clever. You have access to the pitches of the repeats (not just the pitch of the sample loop) and can change them by hand and they can be played in unison. You can also crossfade between the pitched repeats of one track/layer and crossfade into another tracks different pitched repeats that you program. You can also change the settings of the repeat times themselves and add different timings to the repeats. Looks like they have put a lot of thought into what you do with manipulation of the repeats as a rhythmic pitchshifting triple delay. I really like how you can quickly change presets for quick variations.

The one thing I’m not keen on is the same set of knobs have double or treble functions depending on the switch setting. So you change the settings of each of the 3 layers of sample loops with the same set of knobs. So if you switch between layers it can become tricky to find your original settings. It does store 3 presets of your knob positions and becomes fun when you play in a different loop using an old loops settings. It’s also mono, not stereo for people interested.

Here’s some quick Instagram clips

Preset Switching

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#158

I was lucky enough to purchase one during the first run, but ended up selling it. It was one of the most confusing pedals I’ve ever used. It looks like they added some markings on it now, so maybe it’s simpler now?

I’m sure there’s a ton of sounds to be found. Have fun!

#159

Yes, I found the YouTube videos confusing and it was not until it was in front of me and I went through the tutorial then it made a lot of sense. Not easy to use when straight out of the box, without any instructions, but not as complicated as I thought it would be, because I already had the CT5, and could see the similarities straight away. The first day, was some head scratching but the fog was clearing. Second day, I got it. The layout on the front is slightly different and looks clearer, also he’s updated the firmware a few times also. Seems like he’s added stuff for the pitches sequences repeats and also midi clock that some user complained about.

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#160

Hey marcus, do you have any resources on that one? seems amazing and very interesting, would love to build one. cheers!

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#161

Very interesting thread! I am just looking for a simple looper with a “count in” function. Currently using my boss dd7 as a looper, but it’s not very easy to use without a count in when I want to do arpeggios…

#162

does anyone know of a monophonic live loop device/pedal? by this I mean a device wherein one can sample from a live audio input, loop it, and to make a new loop one merely engages the device to immediately overwrite the previous loop from the same input source—one loop at a time. sample length is dictated by however long you engage the ‘record’ function. I’m having trouble finding something like this; any direction would be much appreciated.

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#163

Would the older model Boss RC-2 work for you? It has built in rhythms you can turn on and off etc.