maybe it’s just not new and shiny right now. if you don’t actively dislike something about owning a modular, it might be worth giving it a little while longer to see

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I’m with @alanza here. I use the following metrics for keeping something around even if I’m not fully utilizing it; language, I don’t always use my full vocabulary but I wouldn’t want to chuck parts of it out because it’s unused at this moment I’m writing or speaking. Also, I love photography but I go months without using my many lenses and then I find myself needing a macro or I’m heading into Yellowstone and take my 70-200mm for wildlife. I don’t make field recordings everyday, but I like having the mics and recorder nearby for when I feel inspired.

The point is that having tools that feed you and allow to explore when inspiration strikes is a luxury and first world problem that I wouldn’t allow myself to become jaded about because I wasn’t producing “Hits.” Let something sit a year and then return to it, if it’s boring and brings you no value, then do away with it.

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Well put. :purple_heart:

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I’m in the middle of this right now, so I’m happy this thread exists. I started selling off my Eurorack stuff this week to potentially streamline things down to a Norns (incoming!), Grid (had) and Plumbutter (considering) (has anyone tried this combination?). Eurorack is/was for me (heavy stress on those last two words) too much of a rabbit-hole of ModularGrid-planning and buying things too impulsively, bringing out the consumerist in me a little too much. I actually felt relieved when I posted my rack up for sale and even when I boxed things up to ship. I do miss it somewhat already, but I think larger purchases are going to make me think twice a bit more than the “I NEED THAT $300 MODULE THAT I DON’T NEED!!!” I experienced with Eurorack.

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It’s human nature to adorn ourselves with trinkets and fetishes. This isn’t about stuff I need or don’t need, I’m exploring my humanity by not only outfitting my cave with the greatest of accouterments but supplying myself with the tools that expand my mind, my musicality, and my species ability to stoke the embers of novelty in its creative response to my consumption. We evolve with tools, downgrading is not an option.

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I mean, that’s cool that it works for you, but I’m not an essentialist to agree with something like your notion of adornment as human nature (whatever that is). I was just responding to the topic with my own experience, which lead to the conclusion that it made me want things too much; it felt more like consumerism than exploring art-making tools, which is really a personal defect or whatever within myself and definitely not a judgement or definition of anyone who enjoys the format (hence my stress on “for me” and use of first person), so I’m stopping.

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I can totally relate to the sense that I’m being driven in part by gear lust and even worse, by the feeling of existential lack or craving that I’m somehow missing out on something that will make me finally feel fulfilled…

This can be terrifying if I’m honest with myself.

However, when I actually start playing with my instruments, whether it’s modular or guitar or bass or oud or hand drums or Ableton, a sense of excitement and exploration pushes aside that other stuff and the zen state kicks in… I think it helps to be an improviser since that mode lets me be open and largely free of judgment in the moment…

I’ve gone through many cycles of acquisition and disposition over the years

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Curious about this. Can you elaborate?

it’s a flow state, in the moment, aware but non-judgmental, receptive, not particularly self-oriented but not hypnotic or zombified…

runners get into it, lovers get into it, of course meditators get into it! Speaking of which, I note a lot of folks in this community mention meditation… ambient music is highly meditative, which is why it’s often mistaken for “new age” music… years ago I was the new age buyer in a record store in Burlington VT… at that time, the lines between ambient and new age hadn’t been drawn as they are now… some of the new age stuff was really excellent, before it became the droning slow variety of brunch jazz that it is now… hope that’s not overly nasty, I don’t mean to be…

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I played a gig with basically this setup (+ op-1 running into plumbutter) – norns running MLR with plumbutter into it.

It works okay! mlr and plumbutter both have similarly loose concepts of time (if you don’t enable syncing) that enabled it to work out okay. It made for a fairly abstract/noisey setup though, so YMMV.

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Noisy and abstract sounds like fun to me! Thanks!

Just joined to put in how much the “depth year” mentioned much earlier in this thread resonated with me. I’ve been cycling through gear for two years, mostly productively–learning what I want to do by seeing what kit and practices work for me, and which don’t. I’m down to a portable 5U, a reverb, a mixer, and a delay, and I have never felt less distracted by shiny new things.

The plan is to spend the year between birthdays going deep with that rig, and recording with some self-imposed structure. So, thanks, llllllll.co, for catalyzing this!

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ive gotten to the point where I only kept an audio interface and laptop but…that didn’t last too long. it was nice to get rid of all the things that were uninspiring to me at the time and to kind of reset myself, then move forward. Now I have a 7U intellijel case, Space and Mixer. This is working well for me this time around.

I’m going through modular grid and removing any module that I don’t absolutely love and I’m going to sell them. Then rebuild up my rack slowly.

Anyone ever do this?

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Yup. I think that’s the only way to approach gear (and basically anything else in life): if you’re not totally enamored with it, it probably shouldn’t waste space in your life. Easier said than done, though, of course.

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i’m kinda getting out of modular, really. or analog stuff in general. it’s for happy reasons though.

reasons: mainly authenticity: 1) taking what most interests me and re-centering on it, not just alluding to it, which means taking ownership of the situation into which I’ve been thrown. 2) [the concrete manifestation of #1] more deeply grounding myself and my work in specific communities, folk cultures… ones in which music has perhaps been largely unthought, but ones through which the idea of the future may be possible again. what i do is really only meaningful in the sense of being existentially rooted. We make the equipment meaningful in how we use it to tell our stories. Stories through which we express most fundamentally who we are. For me, the music is not meaningful solely on the basis of equipment or abstract/formal properties.

in other words, “just music” doesn’t cut it for me anymore. a more difficult road lies ahead, in that the new direction may not be immediately understood. i barely understand it myself sometimes. Nonetheless, the past and present give me more than enough resources upon which to draw. The building blocks exist, and I’m ready to build. The first thing to build is a bridge. Hence – happy reasons, not discouragement at all.

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just want to take this opportunity to say to no one in particular that over a month ago I sold my entire Serge system—“entire” makes it seem like a significant size (was to me, but, you know): it was two panels—and thus all the electronic equipment I owned because I needed the money for various pErSoNaL mAtTeRS and wanted to eventually try a different panel configuration. in the meantime since, I’ve spent a little of the residual #sergebucks on some eurorack, which I’ve discovered that I hate working with (having never used it before). I also bought an 84HP euro system from germany—literally euro—and it still hasn’t arrived (it’s been three weeks since I ordered it) because customs offices are dumb. but now I don’t even want it because I hate eurorack. baby enters the forum, crying: I just want Serge!! it’s all I can think about!! but I don’t have any money bc I blew it on dumb eurorack and aforementioned personal matters!! nooo!!!

perhaps my little narrative will serve as a cautionary narrative …

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yeah, I’ve been working with computer most of the time since the big departure. though I have pretty bad tendonitis so unfortunately I don’t think a serious sustainable commitment to computer music is in the cards for me (despite wanting to do this, for immediacy and my bank acct’s sake). but it’s encouraging to hear that you’ve found working with computer to be satisfying. many composers I admire moved from voltage controlled systems to digital computers, so it certainly makes sense to me …

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I sort of went the other direction: I started Community of Sound (experimental music incubator in Burlington VT) so that others could use my gear collection.

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Eurorack is just a vertical panel dimension, a jack size, and the red stripe down (except when it’s up) rule. That’s a pretty vague set of standards to develop a hatred for.

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