I’m pretty sure this is happened to me too a couple of times. Mainly when I’ve been using it for a while then stop and leave the system on for a while. When I come back W/ has frozen.

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Yeah, I’m on 1.2.1 and occasionally have it happen, much less than it used to happen though. I also occasionally have to piwer cycle my system once or twice on startup because of a problem with w/. We are talking 5% or less of the times i turn my system on. When this does happen, w/ outputs a constant tone and is unresponsive.

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Any idea of the cause?

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Yes, I have this. It was very common but still happens occasionally. When I play live I wipe the tape and reboot just before starting.

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Yeah I clear the tape every time I power on the system, still happens randomly without any possibility to replicate. Will be using it for upcoming show, really hope it doesn’t have mid performance…

As far as I am aware, it should only ever happen when the tape is stopped; the bug was originally caused by the SD card driver going to sleep. Periodic checks were added to keep the card awake, though it is possible that the keep-alive is being missed in rare instances/not happening soon enough.

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Do you know if you have ever had it freeze up and become unresponsive while it was actively accessing the tape (as opposed to being stopped in NAV mode)?

I’m pretty sure It’s only happened while the tape was stopped and left for a few hours.
I may have frozen it from user error by hitting to many buttons and toggling up and down but could have been pre 1.21
I have 2 /W’s and it’s happened to both but one more then the other.
Mind you I have never done a tape clear. I might try that and see if it still happens.

I have not had ussues with freezing/becoming unresponsive while playing since 1.2.1. My only issues have been at power up or if left unpatched and unattended for very long periods of time.

Not when it was in use, only happens when it’s idle, but sometimes idling for 20 minutes then it happens, sometimes as short as 2-3 minute minutes.

I just bought a doepfer 177-2 Foot Interface for triggering recording on W/ in Dub mode. The thing is, when I connect the gate out directly to This, it doesn’t work, I’ve to put the foot switch out into either a tangle Quartet or 3x Mia channel, then to This, then it works.

When I connect it to teletype trigger in, it works.

Does this have to do with both the gate out of the 177-2 and the This input both being unbuffered? Am still deciding if to keep the 177 because of this.

Thanks in advance for replies!

It’s a known issue that some trigger sources won’t trigger W/s inputs. Should be fixed in a future update, though we have no specific release date for that as we’re focused on other things at the moment.

So in short- it will probably work at some unknown point in the future.

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Hi all :slight_smile:

I’m having trouble updating the second of my two W/s with the new firmware. No problems with the first whatsoever, the this and that jacks respond as both inputs and outputs as you would expect. With W/ number two, I get some peculiar behaviour. The jacks do not get the new functionality. The that jack actually loses functionality in live mode.

Can anyone throw any light on this?

Thank uus

Thanks for clarifying!

I’m having problems getting out of Izzy. W/ is completely unresponsive on power cycles unless I either power up in bootloader mode or power up in Izzy. Once the firmware is loaded, W/ goes straight to Izzy. I can also manually power up into Izzy by holding down loop and record but either way, the module is frozen once Izzy completes.

I monitored the output while updating the firmware and got the pretty tones as well as the high pitched tone at the end (and again, it went straight into Izzy after this so it appeared working).

Any other ideas how to address this? Looks like other people have had this problem. I initially had no problems with my W/ but it sat unused for a while and now this.

EDIT: So clearing the tape after all of this worked for me. For now. I deleted the last issue I had but I will leave this in case someone has the issue and doesn’t want to read 215 comments.

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Ah, think i found one culprit for freeze on startup.

W/ does not like to be patched as part of a feedback loop when powered on. If i remove the input cable before startup, everything is fine. I will check if it is specifically a feedback loop issue or if my unit is unhappy with any loud signal at input on startup.

Anyone else having a lot of trouble with cue mode? There’s a definite chance of user error but it seems to just…not work at all the way it’s supposed to. Especially when scrubbing through the tape it seems to just kinda crash and stop functioning until I exit cue mode and try again.

Could you describe what it is doing in more detail? Are you sending gates/voltages to this or that? Are you scrubbing with the switch or voltage? Jumping between cue points? Trying to add or remove cues?

Most of the problems are coming from relocating or deleting cue points. I’m not always able to replicate it but sometimes when scrubbing through the tape with the switch, w/ will freeze and I have to power cycle. Same deal when trying to delete a cue point except it doesn’t freeze, the record button is unresponsive.

What version of firmware are you using?