Index: lines resources


I’m not capable of doing this without probably making a mess, but I still think it would be great to have the monome docs (and whatever other monome or Mannequins links you want) linked at the very top…


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A process question.

I don’t yet know how to edit the wiki without making a mess of it. I want to learn but that will take time I don’t have at this moment.

What would be better under those circumstances, for me to put stuff into the wiki at the top of the thread and and hope someone else would make it fit nicely, or put the idea as a request in a post down here in the thread?


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I’m realizing that my iPhone is a suboptimal interface for this kind of editing…


Perhaps these kinds of very helpful but non-technical topics (psychology, emotions, cognitive, spirituality, art as path, etc.) could have their own wiki(s)?

I’ve gotten a lot of inspiration, support and connection through posts of this kind, and would find it helpful to be able to find them from a single starting point…

I assume that it just needs someone to start building the page :+1:

Edit: it probably goes without saying that artistic folks tend to have certain emotional, psychological, cognitive or other vulnerabilities… and that there is the potential for some meaningful healing in connection with others in similar circumstances or in supporting others in divergent circumstances…

In other words a place and context for being compassionate, listening, insightful, and loving… There’s a lot of that going on here… We should celebrate it…


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i hear what you’re saying— but it’s also easy to get caught up in the meta-classifying the entire forum.

i think it’d be good to first get the technical content to satisfying level. keep in mind that the original request for this project was due to what was seen as a need for centralization in an attempt to learn a particular tool. i want to make sure we first stay on track to fulfill that need.


All good here…

Thanks for the guidance!

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Would someone be willing to add something to the Discourse entry that specifically describes how to edit the index?


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Is there a way to pin the index to the top for an individual user, e.g., me?

I’d like for it to be at the top whenever I visit the forum but would not dream of imposing that on anyone else!

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just hit this button & edit like any other post:


not the same result, but you can bookmark it (the blue icon next to the circled edit button, above, indicates that i’ve bookmarked it. just tap the icon), and it will be available from your bookmarks page:


Thanks, I got that but I don’t know how to format the text to follow the style conventions that are developing… it’s probably ridiculously easy but it would be helpful to have it documented somewhere…

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oh, sorry! i’m not fully awake yet :crazy_face:. i gotta get rolling for the day, but if no one catches this later, i’ll add some stuff.

Thanks that is perfect!

edited, b/c i meant to reply to @eblomquist:

also, weirdly, i don’t think the tutorials cover linking, and i totally missed the link button here (hence using html tags, haha :crazy_face:).

if you hit the link button:

you get this, so you can display a title, instead of the URL:

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Loving this, added a couple things.

Random question, does anyone know why the bullets in this section have more spacing, I couldn’t figure it out. It is causing me pain, hah:


Looks like it did this because there were a couple of newlines before the “edit this wiki” bullet. Should be fixed now.


Just wanted to express my gratitude for folks contributing to the index!

You all are rockstars :sunglasses:


just bouncing back to emphasize this.

i see the index as a kind of…extended onboarding in the realm of making electronic (& electronically augmented) music, which is pretty much the core of lines. not that i realized that when i stumbled onto the forum via a random google recommendation (i think it took me almost a week to figure out what the heck “a monome” was).

this index project is a perfect extension of what i’m seeing as one of the core philosophies of monome—namely, increasing accessibility in the interest of furthering innovation & (i might be making this part up, but i don’t think so) community-building/engagement.

i love all the peripheral topics (that’s how i got here), and i also think that indexing those—at least to the extent that’s happening here—would reduce the feelings of…emergence, serendipity, and discovery that contribute to the overall magic of this place.

there’s a fair bit of gamification/gameful design on discourse, and in (the best parts of) that spirit, i like the idea of allowing these peripheral gems to be rewards for further exploration of/engagement with this space.

i’m finding some of the most gonzo, weird, rewarding topics through browsing, and this experience wouldn’t be the same if it was even close to fully mapped.


i apologize that i didn’t fully consider the limits of this endeavor— and i’m opting to shut it down after discussion with the moderators.

first, there will be (and already is) a problem with maintaining not only the quality of information, but simply correctness. creating a collection of information is a difficult endeavor and requires a dedicated group of editors.

second, much of the information here could be just as well googled (for example, the git section) with possibly better results.

third, discourse (the forum software) is not ideally set up as a robust interconnected wiki. basically a “wiki” here is a group-edited post, which is not a entirely sufficient tool for the prospect. furthermore the forum software does have some excellent tools that may solve some of the concerns i was initially responding to:

  • bookmarking: i use this myself. when i stumble across something super helpful i’d like to see in the future, it gets added to my list.
  • likes: i generally hate this mechanism because it gamifies social interaction, but in our case, with this forum which is meant to be sharing technical/creative endeavors— a huge number of likes on a post can signal usefulness (or enthusiasm, which is sometimes useful). if you’re scanning through a long thread, the most-liked (see the “summarize this” function) posts will typically be the things you’re looking for.
  • search: unlike previous forum software, search on here is really good .
  • tags: very early on i created the llllllll tag, which has been somewhat under-utilized. i would propose that people can DM @moderators with threads they think should be included in the “best of lines” — threads which exhibit our collective energy and goals.

lastly, i believe the monome documentation is improving at rapid speed thanks to various contributors and feedback from everyone— this is what started this desire for a “generalized knowledge base” which i facilitated starting and am now going back on.

but— i’m also hoping this prompts someone (or a group of people) to start some new projects. i already came across some amazing collections of links in the blogs thread— and in fact, there’s a thread here that has a ton of information already on starting such a thing.

i apologize for my under-considered initiation of this project— please forgive me. and i’m happy to make suggestions about how to best direct some of this energy, and how to also take advantage of the existing forum functionality.

(i’ll leave this thread open for feedback for a short time, then disable the wiki and close it. of course is someone wants to migrate this preliminary collection off-site please do)


I had some reservations about how this was progressing, so think this decision makes sense. That said,…

I still think there’s a long way to go as evidenced by the questions being asked in various threads. These suggest that either the current docs are assuming too much prior knowledge, or alternatively that people are not reading them (which may well be the case). I also don’t think that the Library/Norns category and tag provides a good at-a-glance summary to the novice of what Norns is capable of to the novice user. Hopefully some summary page, or something like the “featured applications” section of the grid docs could be added.

In general, my opinion is that while discourse provides a good discussion forum, the many gems created by the community quickly become lost in the many threads, and I think that’s a shame. Some better way of preserving that for new (and old) users was one of the things that I thought the Index project might tackle. If there are better ways of doing that, I’d be interested in hearing how the
community might achieve that.

This would certainly be welcomed I think.