#42

if you have eurorack:

https://intellijel.com/eurorack-modules/pedal-i-o-1u/ plus https://intellijel.com/eurorack-modules/pedal-i-o-jacks-1u/ (for 1U)
https://www.strymon.net/products/aa1/ (3U, didn’t use this one but looks solid)

Just for me, some distortion/overdrive/fuzz pedals can be great with guitars/basses but very silly and uninteresting with synths/modular because of spectrum of sound.

#43

Is this an impedance thing? Been wondering about this myself.

#44

Yep it is. I think it’s similar to reamping. I’m wondering if I need a reamping box instead of a direct box. They are expensive though so I’d rather not buy one if I don’t have to.

Here’s the important part I don’t understand and that I forgot to mention. This is only happening with my distortion pedals. Any other pedal I use I do not have this volume drop.

#45

Have you tried sending the output of the distortion pedal straight into the Malekko’s Return (rather than via a DI?).

Maybe the DI (which will be setup to interface with line level equipment) could be causing an impedance mismatch with your Malekko snd/rtrn (which I would imagine is setup to deal with guitar levels and impedances)?

Old Fuzz pedals etc. are a lot more sensitive to impedance mismatches etc. (you get all sorts of weird interaction between the old wah and fuzz face pedals).

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#46

+1 for fuzzes. Germanium old circuit fuzzes like single coils, low input level (and sag battery)

#47

I am getting the Strymon AA.1

#48

I may be wrong, but having a DI in the signal path is likely dropping the audio to mic level, which is less than 0.01V – they’re meant to take any signal and match it to a microphone preamp, which is meant to handle 0.001-0.01V. If you remove the DI you shouldn’t lose as much signal. I don’t know that module, but my guess it the return jack should have its own protections and be designed for instrument level, which is usually around 0.75V, where most pedals are designed to operate.
(I got these numbers by googling “mic level voltage” and “instrument level voltage”).

#49

As @Ithacus said - I would try removing the direct box from the path- you shouldn’t need that.

Also, have you tried setting the module to 100% wet signal and using the dry/wet on the guitar pedal instead? There could be phasing issues maybe?

#50

Sewastopol might be another nice option for an i/o…

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#51

Did you get it? How is it?

Can you send a line level signal in with it or only guitar/pedal levels?

#52

It works great. I have actually not used it with guitar yet. Been using it so process stuff from my laptopsetup.

So soundcard into Strymon, processed with modules, back to Strymon, back to soundcard :slight_smile:

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#53

And levels are not a problem?

#54

I usually turn down the output 10-db or so in Live. Then it works fine :slight_smile:
Have also used it just to go from modular level to line level ish for recording.

#55

I’m thinking about the RML Interface: http://www.rmlfx.com/?p=1479 for interfacing with an El Capistan.

Any reason this won’t work well?

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#56

Something else to throw into the mix:

Knob Farm’s Ferry

(haven’t tried it. But this and ALM S.B.G. are the two I’ve been considering)

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#57

@naxuu wasn’t aware of this one… this checks pretty much all the boxes for me: stereo i/o, mix control, and 4hp. basically the stereo version of the S.B.G. that i’ve been looking for.

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#58

Not seen this mentioned yet but looks like a cool option for integrating guitar + pedals to euro! Definitely plan to pick up a kit when I have the time/money

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#59

Having stumbled on this thread and your comment a bit late, I have to ask - why shouldn’t anyone buy 200e stuff? I have been coveting a 200e system and your comment makes me wonder if I’m missing something…

#60

Hi! First post. Been playing modular for about a year, but guitars and synths for about 25, yikes! Jumping into modular I knew off the bat I’d be using guitar pedals, because I didn’t want to rebuy that stuff again for the rack, and I still play guitar a lot as well. The only really issue is the levels, which has already been mentioned. Sometimes you will distort the input of the pedal. One of the easiest ways to manage this is to send the synth level into a mixer that has aux sends, almost always in this case that I’ve managed to alleviate distortion this way. I don’t think you really need those fancy out modules for Euro, you can get a cheap Behringer mixer for under $100 that has aux sends. If you want to stay in the rack, the Pittsburgh System Interface has worked for me so far. I’ve found that the Eventide H9 handles levels well too, and sounds great. Other pedals I dig with the modular are MXR Carbon Copy Deluxe, has lots of options for synth integration such as a line-level switch and dry only switch, and even clock syncing!

#61

Personal topic for them, but you could probably infer what they might think about it if you read up on the history of the later part of Buchla’s life and career :slight_smile:

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