Kria Max Patch?

shellfritsch · 2016-11-04T00:00:39.095Z

I absolutely LOVE kria on my ansible module. @tehn, is there is a chance it will be released as a max or max4live patch ?

tehn · 2016-11-04T01:16:37.813Z

i would like to, yes. my todo list is bonkers.

there has been discussion of working on the firmware frameworks to facilitate cross-compilation on different platforms. this endeavor needs a new thread, however.

jasonw22 · 2016-11-04T01:19:19.579Z

tehn:

my todo list is bonkers

only one todo list?! j/k I completely sympathize.

glia · 2016-11-04T01:36:25.816Z

ha

i just split my stream into “duties/professional” and “creative”

myecholalia · 2016-11-04T01:51:00.380Z

yeah, i got an “office” and a “home” context as well. keeps me sane.
obviously, if you live and work in the same place, that wouldn’t make much sense.

jasonw22 · 2016-11-04T01:54:26.474Z

I think my office todo lists are mating, because they definitely multiply.

Drewsky · 2017-10-25T20:45:52.698Z

Bumpin’ this thread up. I have loved Kria in Ansible and I think an m4l version would be the stuff of dreams. Any update on this front? I have no clue how hard it would be…

What does it take to port it to Max? I’m still a baby max patcher, but I think I’d be interested in figuring out how to put it in m4l after that.

tehn · 2017-10-25T21:04:41.329Z

kria is written in c. you’d need to port it to javascript, running inside of max. so probably not trivial unless you’re versed in javascript/c in addition to max.

as much as i’d like to do this myself, i still can’t commit. however, the beauty of kria being open-source is that someone with the skills can take this on whenever they want.

Drewsky · 2017-10-25T22:09:17.394Z

ahhh, ya. I’m certainly not qualified to do that

Anyone else interested? I’ll send you flowers

jasonw22 · 2017-10-25T22:11:45.606Z

Another avenue for software-izing Kria, would be to port the C code to VCVRack. Not on my TODO list, but I’m up for sending flowers as well.

rick_monster · 2017-10-25T22:26:48.877Z

heh - aleph kria was ported from the eurorack standalone inside of a puredata wrapper. Pretty sure the pd external still works. Also whitewhale & meadowphysics. So yea it’s there for pd users but afaik noone’s touched it.

Could definitely give some pointers to anyone attempting a similar port for max feel free to PM me…

shellfritsch · 2017-10-26T00:26:05.919Z

How hard would it be for a pd newb to get this external running with basic 4 channel midi output?

rick_monster · 2017-10-26T02:05:33.322Z

what OS? I can only help compiling for linux unfortunately - don’t have mac or windows here. on my platform took me about 10 mins to get that cooking in a patch - btw great suggestion!

Somehow got so caught up in other things I didn’t think to use this combo, even though I have a pretty fun MPC/midi setup up and runnning.

EDIT:

ALEPH user STUDY GROUP

http://nshgrtha.net/sdcard_sktk1a.zip

http://nshgrtha.net/aleph_sktk1a.tar.gz

first unzip that tarball. The code in utils/pd works for me. “make” builds bees_op.pd_linux, copy that to pd-externals directory & then open the bees_ops_grid.pd patch. That gives some hints how to actually use the objects - basically bang the second inlet of each of those grid ops with a 1 & then you can switch focus between the grid ops.

Midi is another song and dance but not hard once you get used to pd (it’s a bit weird at first)

Drewsky · 2017-10-26T19:26:47.067Z

So would I be naive/delusional to think that I could do this:

use something like emscripten to compile the .c file to asm.js
learn how to run that asm.js file in max
learn how to make max patcher usable for m4l

I have now clue what im talking about…lol

shellfritsch · 2017-10-26T19:29:30.458Z

rick_monster:

“make” builds bees_op.pd_linux

i’m a lil confused by this part… i see “makefile” and “makefile.pdlibbuilder” but i’m not sure what to do with these… how do i run them?

if i can get this external loaded in PD you’ll probably see me popping up in the pd topic shortly

jasonw22 · 2017-10-26T19:33:04.110Z

Drewsky:

So would I be naive

The problem you will encounter is I/O. An aleph has very different I/O than Ableton Live. So you’d have to change things (quite a few things). This means it’s not a question of wrapping/conversion, but rather a question of editing and writing code.

Drewsky · 2017-10-26T22:15:05.707Z

ahh, ya im down and out for that. I’m interested in @shellfritsch 's direction, so I’ll be trying to do that too. You’ll prolly beat me tho!

Drewsky · 2017-10-26T23:49:24.650Z

okay, update as I slowly chip away at understanding this (im on mac OS):

I figured out that I needed GNU Make to “make” the the /pd folder to create bees_op.pd_linux in Terminal
I downloaded Make and after lots of googling figured out how to install that command
tried to “make” /pd but couldn’t figure out how to actually execute it in Terminal…
I also found out that pd looks for .pd_darwin for externals on mac OS so I’d have to figure out some way to translate bees_op.pd_linux to bees_op.pd_darwin…not sure if that is possible

[edit]
This is what I get when I execute “make” on the /pd folder:

58 PM

[edit 2]
ah, then if figured out with “make help” that I could point to my /src/m_pd.h which brought me to this error below…im so deep in stuff i don’t understand, lol…

26 PM

jasonw22 · 2017-10-27T02:17:02.228Z

Not at a point where I can help debug compiling the Pd external, but I did want to mention that the preferred way to get make going on a mac is to use Apple’s XCode command line tools.

This guide does a nice job of hand-holding through it.
http://railsapps.github.io/xcode-command-line-tools.html

rick_monster · 2017-10-27T03:30:04.097Z

looks like you’re missing liblo, which is a dependency of the library. a little bit of googling suggests liblo should work on a mac. See if you can install that library somehow - I only know how to do it on linux http://liblo.sourceforge.net/